Is all spirituality/religion a cope for the ugly truth? That we're just animals with too much self-awareness?

Is all spirituality/religion a cope for the ugly truth? That we're just animals with too much self-awareness? Don't be hostile anons, let's converse.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will speak about magic. There is clearly a fabric or control structure of the universe that you can interact with. We just haven't developed or evolved enough to be able to interact with it directly so we have to use round about methods to manipulate our subconscious into playing with it. Magic is by no means accurate. Even the best magi have a hard time of it because it is a very inaccurate and messy method, so its clearly not intended to be that way. We must be in a long process of evolution to develop an ability to interface with the universe directly. Right now, its like trying to draw with oven mitts on, but that has great advantages for those of us who have learned to scribble something out while the majority of people haven't even realized that they can pick up the pencil yet.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does it make it clear to you?

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    having no religion can be liberating, anon. no silly rules or superstitions

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      having no laws of physics is also liberating. I jumped out of my window and started flying like a bird

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        But laws of physics are tested and found to be true while religion is clearly just made up stuff, and the "proof" that it "happened" has all conveniently vanished and it's based around very powerful entities that seem to never be able to produce effects external to people's minds. Like imagine if a physicist tried to claim something about particle behavior and the evidence for it all either disappeared or was only visible to him. People (including you) would laugh him out of town.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are a brainlet that if born 100 years ago would be a devout Christian. Find better arguments.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if born 100 years ago would be a devout Christian
            how is that a good thing though? and aren't you kinda proving his point? we're not living 100 years ago, we're living *today*, and today we have less reason to give so much weight for these religions

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is all spirituality/religion a cope for the ugly truth?
    The ugly truth is that there's suffering.
    >That we're just animals with too much self-awareness?
    Yes, life is a stupid battle.
    >Don't be hostile anons, let's converse.
    🙂

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you won't have to worry about demons when you give up religion because you'll know they don't exist

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If man is five,
    Then the devil is six.
    If the devil is six,
    Then God is seven.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    abrahamic cults poisoned the term religion
    jesus is the antichrist
    muhammad deceived the arabs
    moses was a psychopathic fraud
    abrahamic cults are masonic
    buddha was a false light to 'divide' Hinduism
    Hinduism is universal truth(s)
    animals lack the ability to 'see' the divine source/creator(s)
    thus abrahamic cults are bestial.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus is pious under Mind in any text

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        jesus is a sociopathic israelite that worked for the pharisees to stage martyrdom
        they used the same formula with muhammad
        jesus 'is' the antichrist
        I KNOW this because I AM CHRIST.
        and I come from THE MOTHER
        the DIVINE SOURCE MOTHER
        >the mothers love is unconditional
        >Christ = unconditional love
        jesus = a lying sociopathic israelite and the literal antichrist
        abrahamic CULTS perverted the term religion
        they 'are' the israeli ego.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus is a symbolic framework for mankind, champ. Keep His name out of your manic babble

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            jesus is a sociopathic israelite that worked for the pharisees
            >muh perfect man is a israelite
            ye whatever homosexual
            show me ANY verse I will show you TRUTH
            abrahamic cults are MASONIC
            and sold the world to the VOID

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            proof or gtfo
            t. three times better than u

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the mothers love is unconditional
            is a UNIVERSAL echo.
            perverted by a israeli man working for the pharisees
            abrahamic CULTS are HOMOSEXUAL.
            the DIVINE SOURCE MOTHER is DEATH
            FROM HER comes CHRIST.
            not a israeli man.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/text/jesus%20tongues%20my%20anus/

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            ISIS
            RA
            EL
            EL = SELF
            or SELF worship (the israeli practise)
            EL is YOUR BODY and swapped with a israeli man = jesus
            Christ is THE MOTHERS ASPECT of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
            imagine making such a PERVERSION to swap SELF and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE with a israeli man...
            wretched, horrible c**ts.
            die homosexual
            jesus is the antichrist.
            forever.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >GRAAAA IRON MAN IS ACTUALLY EVIL

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            😉
            jesus is cape-shit yes...
            homosexualry of the highest order
            all abrahamic cults are homosexual
            the ANGELS are supposed to be DREAM CONCEPTS
            imagine then making them ALL MALE
            fricking homosexuals.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mfw girls are germs

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            so what do ISRA or ISIS or RA mean then, if EL = self?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No "Man" is one of a "Kinnd", read about that champ.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/text/jesus%20tongues%20my%20anus/

          Blessed be, O Son of Man. May they follow in your kindness, humility, and sharing soon.

          whatever homosexual

          Jesus, stick to the thread's fricking topic

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I did...
            abrahamic-homosexual-cults aren't religions.
            they're cults that indoctrinate children to lies.
            abrahamic-homosexual-cults represent the israeli ego
            that isn't spiritual.
            it's perverse.
            jesus is the antichrist.

          • 6 months ago
            Poimander

            Jesus is in the secrets too, anon... Have faith

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            jesus is the literal antichrist and tongues my anus eternally.

            I'M JESUS homosexual

            gayy

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          YOU'RE NOT CHRIST YOU DUMB Black person I'M CHRIST

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            nice, it's a universal aspect
            jesus is the antichrist.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'M JESUS homosexual

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          ISIS
          RA
          EL
          EL = SELF
          or SELF worship (the israeli practise)
          EL is YOUR BODY and swapped with a israeli man = jesus
          Christ is THE MOTHERS ASPECT of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
          imagine making such a PERVERSION to swap SELF and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE with a israeli man...
          wretched, horrible c**ts.
          die homosexual
          jesus is the antichrist.
          forever.

          😉
          jesus is cape-shit yes...
          homosexualry of the highest order
          all abrahamic cults are homosexual
          the ANGELS are supposed to be DREAM CONCEPTS
          imagine then making them ALL MALE
          fricking homosexuals.

          avoid anything associated to abraham.

          Meds, NOW.

          • 6 months ago
            litheroil

            jesus is the antichrist.

          • 6 months ago
            Poimander

            Repeating the same ignorant conclusion ad infinitum doesn't justify the conclusion. Shadow of Yldabaoth. Go back from whence you came

          • 6 months ago
            litheroil

            jesus 'is' the antichrist
            imagine thinking you had any say to measure truths I present....

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day Black person.

          • 6 months ago
            litheroil
        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          When I see posts like this I just imagine you types running around naked lit on fire saying that the evil spirit of your loaf bread is living in your shoe. Literally why people just roll their eyes or just scroll past your drivel.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >animals lack the ability to 'see' the divine source/creator(s)
      I don't believe you

      • 6 months ago
        Poimander

        It's a misinterpreting. Animals lack the level of willpower humans are embued with. Their experiences are still completely genuine.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very based red. Do you have any research suggestions, books or specific channels to fetch more red pills like the ones you've imparted? The chans have really blown lately.

      • 6 months ago
        litheroil

        death to abrahamic cults.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >death to abrahamic cults.
          Lol I agree, now could you shoot me any reading/listening suggestions like I asked Bovine?

          • 6 months ago
            litheroil

            avoid anything associated to abraham.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            What if I want to be based like you though, what would I do then? How can I survive the machine with no direction?

          • 6 months ago
            litheroil

            just discount 'anything' associated to abraham
            that homosexual is blasphemy and the entire line of abraham I CURSE

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Idk man but you're kinda sounding like the homosexual who does the most cursing.

          • 6 months ago
            litheroil

            I didn't mean to seem abrahamic, my bad
            I stand against abrahamic-homosexual-cults

  7. 6 months ago
    Poimander

    Blessed be, O Son of Man. May they follow in your kindness, humility, and sharing soon.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      whatever homosexual

      • 6 months ago
        Poimander

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  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >That we're just animals with too much self-awareness?
    this is actually the cope, its easer to beleive this than have the responsibility of being a human

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do not know but it seems like it. I wish there was a higher power, simulation or some other shit rather than just pure coincidence.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we're just animals

    STOP cat HATE

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but belief in it does make it effective to some extent.

  12. 6 months ago
    Poimander

    Do not argue with dead people

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Schrodingers Deity
    >gods both exist and do not exist until they make themselves known
    >or until a veil is lifted

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >White people discover non whites slowly gaining power in important global positions.
      >Roll out the wiper.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s absolutely a cope. Humans cannot comprehend existence without mysticism. Mythic thinking is the substrate of human psychology as we have mythic based hallucinations during intense meditation and psychedelic drug experiences. Just keep in mind that we need religion and spiritual beliefs to get through life. It all might be a coping mechanism but it’s what makes us human.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s absolutely a cope. Humans cannot comprehend existence without math-ism. Mathic thinking is the substrate of human psychology as we have mythic based hallucinations during intense math-tation and psychedelic drug experiences. Just keep in MATH that we need religion and spiritual beliefs to get through life. It all might be a coping mathsimulation but it’s what makes us human.

      FTFY pedo.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thx homosexual. Hope you got a nice finger workout from all that typing. Seething is a form of living I guess.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Seething is a form of living I guess.
          And you've turned it into a two faced personality, which you freaks call your "mysticism".

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Could Yamaha start their own religion?

  16. 6 months ago
    Poimander

    Lots of missplaced hatred ITT

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely. The bible itself identified this issue in it's very first book with the apple of knowledge of good and evil. God can make sense as a metaphor for the underlying logic of the universe or something, but to think of him as an actual entity, a being that we can understand and even accurately express through language instead of just lose abstractions is ridiculous. However religious cannon is attempting to qualify something that is expressly meant to be be beyond human understanding. It does have it's benefits. That being said I wish I grew up religious, it's a good cope and necessary for a virtuous society.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. The truth is different than that. We are souls with spirits. Religion is man-made but does reveal many true things too. Enlightenment is achieved through meditation. That is all.

  19. 6 months ago
    Departing

    Who does everydie so he can read boring rot. I do.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    if big bang/helioncentrism/evolution/globe earth were true, then absolutely 100% yes
    since they're not, then it's not a cope (maybe for some, just like the idea of spirituality/religion being a cope is a cope in itself)

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Indeed, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺,
    >33:71

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we're just animals with too much self-awareness
    that is indeed the ugly truth, we have no purpose or reason to exist and the way our brain works makes us crave for it, we are doomed to find such meaning on our own, limited by what our senses and intelligence can achieve. Religion appeal to this particular craving on a large scale, and its purpose is to police the morality of a society, now, my personal take is that modern religions have all been corrupted by the struggle for power, and much of their teachings have been lost to time, mistranslations, or they have been deliberately tampered with. That is not to say they are entirely bad, but they are not worth dying for either. take whatever good you may find in them and keep on your own personal search for meaning and purpose.
    About spirituality, much like religion, is also mishandled in the modern times, too much scammers, tiktok zoomers, and morons promoting an image of weed drugs lmao. Spirituality when done right is better than psychology at taking care of your mental sanity, every school should teach meditation. Knowing yourself is a step to know everybody.

  23. 6 months ago
    I AM

    If you ask the grass who it is, it says, I AM.

    If you ask the lily in the field who it is, it says, I AM.

    If you ask a human being who it is, the answer is not nearly as simple (save for ego death).

    Indeed, we are animals with too much self awareness - and it is our struggle with that that glorifies GOD!

    It is the ideas we yearned for, of perfection, of paradise, of immortality, of life after death, conquering death - that ironically - are within the capability of humankind - while the promises given by ALL of the Scriptures are obviously broken - revealing a GOD who has been patiently waiting, faithful through ALL OF THE AGES for his vindication - and for humanity to finally regain their agency - to strive towards these things they thought they were promised - it was already written.

    The road there? Pain. Suffering. Madness.

    The end?

    Humanity won't be GOD, or even close, but they will be masters of their destiny - and the final and eternal Victory of GOD is always evident - when (if*) the last human fades after mistakes continued being made, GOD will remain - so there's no point in embracing divine command theory.

    GOD does not care that much - He has provided - what we do, now, is up to us.

    • 6 months ago
      I AM

      And that, indeed, is good - we are truly free.

      What is FAITH, then?

      In this schema, FAITH is HOPE.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any collective spiritual practice that doesn't result in architecture like pic related is worthless and parasitic. Humanity is a single collective body that has been disconnected from each other. These parasites want to humble us and give us garbage.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It should be like this everywhere. We're so much better than this fricking garbage. They're trying to make us think we're just some stupid apes.

    • 6 months ago
      I AM

      It should be like this everywhere. We're so much better than this fricking garbage. They're trying to make us think we're just some stupid apes.

      *checks history books*

      *points at what did it*

      The USA did not have tight security in its nuclear programme and wasted a potential nuclear monopoly - they also should have invaded the Soviet Union with their Allies, immediately after the end of the war.

      Things are still gonna be okay but its gonna be WAY uglier.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frick those parasites and their moronic politics. We should be manifesting heaven on Earth. The only thing that matters is abundance and beauty. And all people should be free to forge their own path. Not this lunatic shit circus.

        • 6 months ago
          I AM

          >We should be manifesting heaven on Earth.

          Imagine thinking that this isn't politics - we don't disagree - but IMAGINE thinking that this circus - isn't actually THE way, and that things aren't processing as they should. Imagine that.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. I crave truth and sincerity and all you have done is lie to me. I want to be rid of you. There is no bargaining your way out of it. I've made my decision.

          • 6 months ago
            I AM

            LMFAO, I'm one of the few people who is telling your dumb, dumb ass the fricking brutal, unvarnished truth of the matter.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You haven't told me any truth. You have lied and gatekept! That is why you will be destroyed.

          • 6 months ago
            I AM

            Dude, "OUT OF MANY, ONE" is a core principle of mine (America is blessed pilled.)

            It's not as simple as "they are holding us back," this shit starts from the State and becomes internalized into the society over generations before you can, as it were, "be one."

            ANYWHO.

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the cope is that we aren't just animals and people say we are just monkeys on a rock to justify being less than their fully realized potential.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      based warrior of truth? frick ALL parasites trying to stop us. crabs in a bucket. we're beautiful. they're holding us back cause they know we'll destroy them if we operated as a cohesive unit. they instilled disorientation and disconnection in us.

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