I'm once again asking for the religious people of?

I'm once again asking for the religious people of Oyish to provide the rest of us with even a single piece of empirical evidence that their specific god or gods exist. Without any evidence how can we be sure if these magical entities are real or if gods are just works of human imagination trying to explain the complex world around them.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Radiochan

    religion doesn't work according to an empirical scientific basis, that's not how religions work

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not asking about how religions work. They are based on blind faith yes but this thread is about evidence not faith.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      No but NDEs are actually solid proof of life after death, because anyone can have them if they come close to and survive death. And they are so extremely real to those who have them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o

      As this NDEr described their NDE:

      >"Now, what heaven looks like? 'OMG' doesn't even describe how beautiful this place is. Heaven is, there are no words. I mean, I could sit here and just not say anything and just cry, and that would be what heaven looks like. There are mountains of beauty, there are things in this realm, you can't even describe how beautiful this place is. There are colors you can't even imagine, there are sounds you can't even create. There are beauties upon this world that you think are beautiful here. Amplify it over there times a billion. There are, it's incredibly beautiful, there's no words to describe how beautiful this place is, it's incredibly gorgeous."

      And importantly, even dogmatic skeptics have this reaction, because the NDE convinces everyone:
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

      So anyone would be convinced if they had an NDE, we already know this, no one's skepticism is unique. And the book in pic related is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife.

      >muh brain chemistry

      Neuroscientists are convinced by NDEs too. What do skeptics think they understand that neuroscientists do not?

      >muh DMT causes it

      Scientifically refuted already, and NDErs who have done DMT too say that the DMT experience, while alien and really cool and fun, was still underwhelming to the point of being a joke when compared to the NDE.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmaoing @ muh empirical evidence
    imagine being 200 years behind in philosophy

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Enlightenment-onwards philosophers are frauds and crooks. Their weasel words have no value.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    my god created the universe. Something can’t be created by nothing. /thread, get empirical evidence’d

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Something can’t be created by nothing.
      That's not how empirical evidence works. That's just a statement / opinion. But if you want to play this game then universe was created from nothing so you're factually wrong.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        nta but the point you should take is empiricism cant even prospect to explain everything alone, you moronic pseud.

        >But if you want to play this game then universe was created from nothing so you're factually wrong.
        provide support for why you think so, because what youre doing isnt how logic works

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >OP conveniently ignores this post, stealth bumps his own thread hours later

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Something can’t be created by nothing.
      Your sky israelite comes from nothing so you do believe something can come from nothing.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm once again asking for the empiricist people of Oyish to provide the rest of us with even a single piece of empirical evidence for the existence of the self. Without any evidence how can we be sure if these entities are conscious or if their posts are just the works of random events.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you can show me one shred of evidence that you can synthesize even an ounce of matter from nothing, I'll take you seriously ashiest anon. A gram even, I would accept. You don't even have to worry about balancing the big bang equation (impossible without resorting to invisible forces AKA religion).

    Until you can prove that its possible, even the pastafarians have you beat.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Big Bang was the expansion of matter, not the creation.
      Daily reminder that Christian’s don’t understand science that even kids understand, and that’s why they’re Christians

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"The Big Bang created all the matter and energy in the Universe." (Nasa.gov)
        Holy frick aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaahahahahahahahaahAHAHAAHAAHAHA

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I’ll actually cite a source. This is basic stuff by the way.

          >Around 13.8 billion years ago, the universe expanded faster than the speed of light for a fraction of a second, a period called cosmic inflation.

          https://universe.nasa.gov/universe/basics/

          >In 1927, an astronomer named Georges Lemaître had a big idea. He said that a very long time ago, the universe started as just a single point. He said the universe stretched and expanded to get as big as it is now, and that it could keep on stretching.

          https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/big-bang/en/

          >The Big Bang event is a physical theory that describes how the universe expanded from an initial state of high density and temperature.[1]

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

          Congratulations. You’ve decided to base your one and only live off a misunderstanding you could have corrected with 1 minute of reading.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >NASA vs your shitty understanding of physics.
            None of that presupposes matter existing beforehand, they just don't know and admit they don't know. It is known that matter and energy couldn't have existed in the way we understand them during that time.
            So actually, its you who don't understand the science are still moronic.
            And yes you can look this up, I actually do understand it. You'll not find a serious source which claims matter and energy existed prior to the first few seconds after the universes creation.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I literally cited two NASA pages. Suck start a shotgun christcuck

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You still don't understand why you're wrong or what a singularity entails. Otherwise you'd realize none of what you cited helps you at all.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know what a singularity expanding doesn’t entail? Matter coming from nothing.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again, not true. It doesn't not say that. You still can't recreate anything like it. You just have an inconsistent model with plenty of problems that cant explain where "something" came from. And until you can create a quantifiable measure of something from nothing, its a meme.
            >muh virtual particles
            dont even try, you don't understand what that artifact of the maths either.

            make a gram of matter from nothing anon, then we can talk.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anon creates his own model where the universe popped out of nothing
            >when it’s shown that this is not the predominant model in physics he still is acting like I and physicists are proposing that matter popped out of nothing
            Argumentative, peasant brain Christian who literally can’t grasp an idea that kids can understand.
            No surprise here, you’re all the same.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            And on top of that, it still doesn't help you. You're just can kicking, even if you don't understand big bang. The can has to stop somewhere down the road. And until you can synthesize matter, none of this helps you.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I’ll keep going, I’m sure it might take you a minute to wrap your head around it.

          >The Big Bang Theory is the leading explanation for how the universe began. Simply put, it says the universe as we know it started with an infinitely hot and dense single point that inflated and stretched

          https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html

          >Working backwards from the current state of the Universe, scientists have theorized that it must have originated at a single point of infinite density and finite time that began to expand. After the initial expansion, the theory maintains that Universe cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles, and later simple atoms.

          https://phys.org/news/2015-12-big-theory.amp

          >big-bang model, widely held theory of the evolution of the universe. Its essential feature is the emergence of the universe from a state of extremely high temperature and density—the so-called big bang that occurred 13.8 billion years ago

          https://www.britannica.com/science/big-bang-model

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >“In the beginning there was nothing... which exploded.”

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not what that means, a singularity isn’t nothing. Youre too dumb to understand it. Hilarious because one of those is very obviously meant for even children to understand.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Matter is an abstract concept encompassing the various elements of the universe. Asking for evidence of an «ounce of matter» is like asking for evidence of «fruit in general», the essential form of fruit, when there are only apples, oranges, lemons, etc. There are no "building blocks of reality" more than the various elements that constitute it and we can observe, study. We need abstract categories because our access to reality, as every other being, is always mediated by our subjective standpoint. We can only access "objective truth" in mediate form. Objectivite knowledge is constructed historically with a struggle upwards, not immediatly achievable only by observing the world.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >anon creates his own model where the universe popped out of nothing
        >when it’s shown that this is not the predominant model in physics he still is acting like I and physicists are proposing that matter popped out of nothing
        Argumentative, peasant brain Christian who literally can’t grasp an idea that kids can understand.
        No surprise here, you’re all the same.

        Create something from nothing. I'll wait.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Create something from nothing. I'll wait.

      This is a strawman, no atheist is saying anything had to come from nothing. There was clearly something before the Big Bang, the Big Bang is just the earliest event of universal expansion we can measure.
      Also, this depends on what you mean by "nothing" because there are massless particles, so if something needs to have mass to be "something" then things are created from nothing all the time, thats the entire premise behind the mass-energy equivalence. If massless particles are still something...well then it means nothing came from nothing...because something always has to exist.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Strawman
        I'm asking you where it came from, and if it had previously existed in equilibrium in that form (which you are implying by saying nothing was actually created from nothing) then what moved the system into disequilibrium?

        Like I said, can kicking.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    They don’t have any. Hence all the shifty behavior, excuses and tantrums.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can go out and meet any of the Aesir-Vanir right now, to say nothing of the fact that your ancestors are still around.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm once again asking for the non-religious people of Oyish to provide the rest of us with even a single piece of empirical evidence that their secular theories or ideas exist. Without any evidence how can we be sure if these oblate spheroids are real or if big bang/evolution/heliocentrism/globe earth are just works of human imagination trying to explain the complex world around them.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Christian God or some servant of Him promises an impossible occurrence
    >Said occurrence happens fully apparent to the senses of multiple observers
    >Repeat many times

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The White race are gods.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you had evidence at first, you're still going to need faith to sustain yourself day to day on other matters. It'll never end with you. You're useless to God this way.
    Just go about your way.

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