>I'm in direct communication with god, I will pass your sins along to him. >Really?

>I'm in direct communication with god, I will pass your sins along to him
>Really? What's he saying?
>No it's one way communication, me to him
>How do you know he received your message?
>I JUST DO OKAY?
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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just "god," or God himself?

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there's no TCP/IP handshake confirmation for prayer
    >"Lol theists rekt!"
    >Vapes smugly

    Why are atheists like this?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bro I'm talking to god I swear

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why does that offend you so much?
        You know you can talk to God too right?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just talk to yourself you are actually talking to god!

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You know you can talk to God too right?
          So no need for the sinbox, and protties are right. Got it.

          >makes vacuous "point"
          >gets exposed
          >strawman's beatings are redoubled
          Fine, I submit, you are correct, nothing that can't be proven to a moral certainty is real, and all inner states are impossible. Just, please ... leave poor strawbro alone.

          Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. "I can talk to God in ways you can't" is an extraordinary claim.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"I can talk to God in ways you can't" is an extraordinary claim.
            Non-scientific category.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            stop larping as a monk and go outside for once, then get shot by a Black person in cape canaveral, there's your proof right there

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            But that would be ordinary

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe, but the idea that some claims are "extra-ordinary" still has nothing to do with science. You either have methods to verify, or you don't.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I should believe all the most insane bullshit as long as I call it non-scientific.
            Yeah, you do that and drink bleach when JFK's ghost tells you to or something.

            >Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
            It's a fairly common human experience throughout human history - people conversing with the unseen. Probably a significant portion of these people are crazy and/or lying, but so what? Prove people have dreams. Prove people have feelings. Prove anything subjective.
            Prove an opinion. Prove an experience. Many real things can't be proven to a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard, many of the most important things in life are this way. Even in science or in criminal law, failure to meet an evidentiary standard is not proof *against*.

            That's nice and all, but give me one reason to believe the pedo in the box can talk with God in ways I can't.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >pedo in the box can talk with God in ways I can't.
            No idea, they didn't argue about pedos

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Is informed that it is definitionally impossible to prove almost anything to the evidentiary standard demanded
            >"That's nice and all, but I demand proof that meets an impossible evidentiary standard"
            Hmm, it's almost as if this isn't an actual question, but rather a pretext to arrive at a desired outcome ...

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Whoa you tore that strawman to pieces!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
            It's a fairly common human experience throughout human history - people conversing with the unseen. Probably a significant portion of these people are crazy and/or lying, but so what? Prove people have dreams. Prove people have feelings. Prove anything subjective.
            Prove an opinion. Prove an experience. Many real things can't be proven to a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard, many of the most important things in life are this way. Even in science or in criminal law, failure to meet an evidentiary standard is not proof *against*.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >makes vacuous "point"
        >gets exposed
        >strawman's beatings are redoubled
        Fine, I submit, you are correct, nothing that can't be proven to a moral certainty is real, and all inner states are impossible. Just, please ... leave poor strawbro alone.

  3. 5 months ago
    Worker

    Roman Catholic priests literally claim to be “another Christ” (alter Christus). Sick, satanic, false religion.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not Catholic, don't agree with the vast majority of things that make Catholics "Catholic", but what you're talking about is confession.
    It's not just "passing your sins along to him". It's also humbling yourself enough to admit you did wrong and fostering a sense of personal responsibility.
    Priests don't just listen to the confession, they also act as a councilor to those who confess, giving advice and reassurance.
    It's basically a free form of therapy.

    • 5 months ago
      Worker

      >It's basically a free form of therapy.
      “Now do 10 hail Mary’s, 20 sets of jumping jacks, and a cartwheel, or you’re going to hell”

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like I said, I'm not Catholic and disagree with most things that make them Catholic. There's also not a "persistent threatening of hell" in most churches. The main focus is nurturing and leading.
        If you look at it in a comparison to something like substance abuse counseling (where they tell you constantly that you'll lose everything) or criminal probation (where they threaten to take everything) or even school counseling (where they threaten your "permanent record"), the rare mention of hell is barely a second thought.

        • 5 months ago
          Worker

          >There's also not a "persistent threatening of hell" in most churches.
          Is that meant to be a good thing? The Catholic Church doesn’t teach the gospel of Jesus Christ - which is that everyone who believes on Jesus Christ is saved forever

          They don’t focus on hell because they don’t want people to know where theyre headed if they stay in that false system

          The Roman Church used to focus on hell to scare people into staying in the church, but now they don’t even bother with that.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm only being a devil's advocate here, but saying that they
            >don’t focus on hell because they don’t want people to know where theyre headed if they stay in that false system
            is a bit moronic.
            The church is meant to give the message the way it's needed for the time and culture it's presented to.
            That's why the gospels and the letters especially appear to be so different.
            They were being presented to specific churches that were having their own specific issues.
            The current iteration of the church is one where people are less "spiritual" (superstitious) than before, but are still in an incredible need of mental healthcare.
            While hell and salvation are still taught and understood, hell is not the primary focus.
            A meaning to life, a reason to live righteously and well, is.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            >A meaning to life, a reason to live righteously and well, is.
            That won't get anyone to heaven. It doesn't matter how many poor people you feed, doesn't matter how many times you go to mass, doesn't matter how often you pray... if you don't trust Christ alone as your Saviour, you're headed straight to hell.

            Do you claim to be a Christian? It sounds as if you've never had the gospel presented to you.

            We're only saved by believing on Christ. The Catholic Church doesn't teach this. It doesn't matter how good a person tries to be; if they don't believe on Christ (which is literally just that, believing, not any extra work), then they're damned.

            >Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
            Galatians 2:16

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That won't get anyone to heaven. It doesn't matter how many poor people you feed, doesn't matter how many times you go to mass, doesn't matter how often you pray... if you don't trust Christ alone as your Saviour, you're headed straight to hell.
            You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. It's not preached about because it's understood and accepted as-is.
            It doesn't *need* to be hammered as it did in the past, because people are generally educated and general intelligence is high enough that it's common sense in the church.
            Westboro Baptist Church is an example of "too much" in this case -- they truly believe they're doing what's right, being extremists and "bringing the fight" to the sinners to save them. A century ago, Westboro would've been acceptable.
            >We're only saved by believing on Christ. The Catholic Church doesn't teach this. It doesn't matter how good a person tries to be; if they don't believe on Christ (which is literally just that, believing, not any extra work), then they're damned.
            That's wholly untrue. First, the Catholic Church does teach salvation is by Christ alone. However, they also teach faith without proof (aka "faith without works") is dead. While I don't fully agree with Catholic sacraments and how "showy" they could be, this is a completely biblical concept. James 2:14-26

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            >That's wholly untrue. First, the Catholic Church does teach salvation is by Christ alone.
            They absolutely do not. And most Protestant churches don't either.

            >However, they also teach faith without proof (aka "faith without works") is dead. While I don't fully agree with Catholic sacraments and how "showy" they could be, this is a completely biblical concept. James 2:14-26
            Do you want to get into a discussion about this?
            Faith is dead in James 2, because it doesn't profit anyone else. It still gets the believer into heaven, but it doesn't feed the hungry or clothe the naked. That's why it doesn't "profit".

            Believe on Jesus Christ and you'll be saved, friend. But right now, it doesn't sound like you're trusting on Him.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They absolutely do not. And most Protestant churches don't either.
            Tell me you've never set foot in a Catholic church without saying it.
            >Do you want to get into a discussion about this?
            Not really, I have to work in about 15 minutes.
            >Faith is dead in James 2, because it doesn't profit anyone else. It still gets the believer into heaven, but it doesn't feed the hungry or clothe the naked. That's why it doesn't "profit".
            If I told you I was an artist but never created anything with my supposed artistic abilities, I would be a liar.
            >Believe on Jesus Christ and you'll be saved, friend. But right now, it doesn't sound like you're trusting on Him.
            It sounds like you're a southern baptist who believes people in Jesus' time spoke with a Renaissance Era accent.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            And let the ad hominems begin...

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But right now, it doesn't sound like you're trusting on Him.
            "Friend", thou lobbeth the first accusation.
            Kindly, wouldst thou piss off?

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            It wasn't an insult. It genuinely doesn't sound like you've ever understood the saving gospel of Jesus Christ.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You ignored the biblical claims I made and focused solely on the perceived insult. It genuinely doesn't sound like you've ever understood the saving gospel of Jesus Christ. Turn the other cheek, so I can insult you again.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            >You ignored the biblical claims I made and focused solely on the perceived insult.
            ?
            I replied to the Biblical claims, and then asked if you wanted to have a discussion. You said that you didn't want to have a discussion, because you're going to work. Then you insulted me, and then told me to "piss off".

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            is dead in James 2, because it doesn't profit anyone else. It still gets the believer into heaven, but it doesn't feed the hungry or clothe the naked. That's why it doesn't "profit".

            ...

            is dead in James 2, because it doesn't profit anyone else. It still gets the believer into heaven, but it doesn't feed the hungry or clothe the naked. That's why it doesn't "profit".
            >If I told you I was an artist but never created anything with my supposed artistic abilities, I would be a liar.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            >>If I told you I was an artist but never created anything with my supposed artistic abilities, I would be a liar.
            Ok...? We're not talking about artists, we're talking about believers. Believe on Jesus Christ and you're saved forever, regardless of works.

            But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
            Romans 4:5

            Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
            Romans 3:28

            And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
            Romans 11:6

            Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
            Galatians 2:16

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Believe on" is improper (dead) English. Nobody speaks it anymore except larpers, theater kids, and cultists.
            The KJV of the Bible was fitted to the monarchy's wishes.
            No "Bible" that has the word "King" in the title referring to anyone besides the only "King" should be trusted, but here you are, quoting it.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            >if I change the topic, maybe I can convince people not to believe on the gospel of Jesus Christ

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            explain all of the verses you mentioned in plain, modern english.
            i personally know what they mean, but appears that you don't.
            you're parroting what you've heard from pastors who were likely wrong.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah, I know you killed and raped children for fun, but now that you've accepted Jesus into your heart, it's ok!
            Protties are moronic if they think sola fide makes even the least bit of sense.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            "I think I'm good enough to enter heaven. Other people aren't, but I am"

            You don't understand the gospel. You're headed straight to hell because you've rejected Christ.

            >As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
            Romans 3:10

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not Catholic either, and this seems correct. The extent to which this was ever "the point" is obscure, it's not a point of emphasis in the Bible or in most Catholic theological writing (outside Dante obviously). The idea of Hell predates Christianity by a lot and is also at best a footnote in Judaism. But it's metal af.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think that millions of people accept it.... There arent even 2 billion catholics in the world so you can't say billions and be accurate.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP is autistic and gay.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even funnier that God in the Bible DOES respond to prayers
    Why he stopped?

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's one way communication
    Not necessarily, no.
    >How do you know he received your message?
    He receives them all.

    Billions are confused about this.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    we get two way communication between ourselves and God through the Holy Spirit. The Bible does also say to confess our sins to one another (to fellow believers) and pray for each other and we'll get healed. It's not supposed to be a priest or a saint mediating between us and God. Jesus is the only one who can fill that role

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's not supposed to be a priest or a saint mediating
      It's supposed to be someone holy. Like the members of the church back in the day were holy. If you have the Spirit in yourself, you can technically skip the priest. But chances are you don't.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >chances are you don't
        if you don't have the Holy Spirit, then how are you a Christian? We're supposed to receive the Spirit around when we believe, repent, and are baptized. If we aren't born of the Spirit, then we wont be able to see or enter the Kingdom of God, as Jesus told nicodemus

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          By recognizing Christ as my savior. I'm not gonna pretend to have literal presence of God communing with me at all times just because I'm supposed to have it.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Matthew 5:17-20
    “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."

    Matthew 7:21-23
    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

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