I'm a Christian and I don't see the point in going to church.

I'm a Christian and I don't see the point in going to church. If I don't fully agree with all of their doctrines then it's pointless.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not Christian, but isn't community equally important if not more so?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have many friends.

      You don't have to agree with ALL of them, just the stuff in their statement of faith or whatever creeds they subscribe to.

      Why? I already believe in the Nicene Creed and all that.

      The point is that you are commanded to go to church. Christ died for the New Testament church, and much of the New Testament deals with the rules and good practices of churches. You don't have to agree with all the doctrines, just the core doctrines - salvation by faith, using the King James Bible, the divinity of Jesus, etc.

      Too many churches and none of them are directly and perfectly from Jesus in an absolute sense.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mentioned you wouldn't go to a church if you didn't agree with all their doctrines.

        It seems to me you don't need to agree with all of them, just those they consider to be the most important.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The doctrines I believe in are widespread throughout multiple churches.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So what do you believe in? Here are some that vary by church.

            Is baptism an expression of faith or a sacrament with saving power(in other words can we baptize infants)?

            What does Jesus' 1000 year reign mean to you, is it literal and if so, will he come before or after this period?

            Is it possible to lose salvation?

            Do we have free will with regard to salvation?

            What gifts of the Holy Ghost do we still have?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why dont you cut the bullshit and just admit you are an Andersonite?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well these are serious doctrinal differences that distinguish one denomination from another.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >serious
            You are a contrarian Andersonite who only follows him because he said a mean word about homo's. If Anderson was Catholic, you'd be asking OP whether he believes the cracker and wine really are Jesus.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was simply sorting out which denomination OP might best fit in with. OP obviously wouldn't like being a Presbyterian or otherwise Reformed since he believes in free will, and since he believes in infant baptism he might not like being Baptist.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >first post in this thread: "So the King James Bible is the Word of God and any other translation is Satanic". Glad we agree on that. Now what do you think of Baptism?
            no, youre a disingenuous frick

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are others who use the KJV. Such as many confessional Presbyterians, conservative (such as Free Will) Baptists, Traditionalist Anglicans (since OP isn't into Catholicism he probably wouldn't care much for them, they're just Catholics under another name)

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm fond of traditional Catholicism.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then you might like Traditional or Continuing Anglicans. They're not Catholic but they don't really believe in the Reformation as Luther or Calvin saw it either. That sounds close to what you believe.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Is baptism an expression of faith or a sacrament with saving power(in other words can we baptize infants)?
            Baptizing infants is logical, if you are a Christian then it shows your intent to raise them as such.
            >What does Jesus' 1000 year reign mean to you, is it literal and if so, will he come before or after this period?
            I believe that God will destroy the world in the next few centuries, which entails the second coming of Christ.
            >Is it possible to lose salvation?
            God individually and exclusively sends you to heaven or hell after death. His judgement is based on your actions.
            >Do we have free will with regard to salvation?
            Yes. Everyone who goes to hell, even pagan tribals, go there because they chose it.
            >What gifts of the Holy Ghost do we still have?
            All of them. You use your own intellect and rationality to understand the objective truth.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            OK you might fit in with a Lutheran or Methodist church then. Definitely not a Presbyterian or RE church, and probably not a Baptist church.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't believe in the Lutheran or Methodist doctrines. I don't see the point.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, what about Lutheranism and Methodism do you disagree with?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree with the necessity of the Reformation and the underlying objectives of creating a "pure israeli" Christianity. I also disagree with Monergism. And Methodism is a meme of a sect.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Pure Judaism" never existed. The OT israelites are not dramatically closer to God than pagan Romans. He worked through both peoples according to his will.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't have to agree with ALL of them, just the stuff in their statement of faith or whatever creeds they subscribe to.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The point is that you are commanded to go to church. Christ died for the New Testament church, and much of the New Testament deals with the rules and good practices of churches. You don't have to agree with all the doctrines, just the core doctrines - salvation by faith, using the King James Bible, the divinity of Jesus, etc.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the problem is most churches use critical text Bibles. Even the supposedly "Conservative" churches, most of them can't conserve Received Text Bibles.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm a Christian and I don't see the point in going to church. If I don't fully agree with all of their doctrines then it's pointless.
    This is the same mindset I had months before I became an atheist.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've been a Christian for many years and I used to be an atheist.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you reject the church you're still an atheist

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is a moronic definition.

          hello me.
          I was an atheist my whole life, became Christian for the sake of being contrarian, attended church, then became autistically obsessed with what the right interpretations of the bible were and abandoning my church, then said "frick this" and became atheist.

          I believe entirely in Jesus Christ, the divinity of the Holy Trinity, and the judgement of souls to either eternal salvation or eternal damnation. And my main emphasis is not with the Bible but with God.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            de-emphasizing the Bible and obsessing over the real non Gospel Jesus is the first step into atheism. Go ahead and deny it, but i give you a few months before you are an atheist.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was never a biblical literalist and I didn't come from some weird fundamentalist background. The "pagan" elements of the Bible exist there through God's providence.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you reject Christ's church, you reject Christ.
            Stop LARPing as a Christian and call yourself a deist instead like the other atheists in denial.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            How am I LARPing? Insincerely going to a church I don't believe in would be LARP. I cannot be a deist or atheist since I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ and his individual judgement of souls after death.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            SO you do understand how bad you are doing in denying church. Stop coping and go to mass.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was never baptized in the Roman Catholic Church and I'm not impressed by modern Catholics. And I don't agree with their doctrines.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            And how am I coping? Jesus clearly didn't found the modern Roman Catholic Church, outside of an indirect way that can be applied to other sects.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            He found the church, and he gave Peter the command of the church, is not that hard to get.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've read more about the Roman Catholic Church and its history than you have.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            you don't even know me anon, I'm trying to help you. You need the church, and the sacraments, otherwise, as some anon said, you will end up being an atheist.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            God's salvation is not limited to Catholics. This is moronic.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it is.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can go to hell yourself then.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            No thank you. I'm sorry for you anon, you still have time to come home tho.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not from a Roman Catholic background, I disagree with their doctrines, I do not care about the pope, and I don't associate your sect with home. You are probably a Latin American who thinks that he is being clever.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm Italian, but yeah I think you are the one who thinks he's more intelligent than every priest and theologian, as if nobody had question the whole church structure. Good luck.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ and his individual judgement of souls after death.
            Why? Doesn't israelites living in magical castles in the sky sound kinda fricking stupid?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have some mentally ill understanding of Christianity.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Insincerely going to a church I don't believe in would be LARP.
            You are obsessing over finding the truth rather than just going with the flow. You creating this thread is a desperate cry for help hoping some anon points you the right church that agrees with your autistic standards for christianity. Which of course, no one in this thread with satisfy your questioning nature. This questioning will lead to atheism.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a cry for help. I'm doing it for entertainment. God interacts with people from all kinds of sects. You are projecting some trauma onto me.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's not a cry for help. I'm doing it for entertainment.
            kek sure. Lets be real, you made this thread hoping some anon name drops some obscure sect of Christianity you never heard of before and then your autistic obsession with finding the truth will be satisfied. Not gonna happen, your autistic obsession will lead to atheism.

            You should be thanking me. Youre probably going to remain Christian for a year or two just so you can be contrarian to my words.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope. Again, you are projecting your own trauma onto me. And I've been in this mindset for about 2-3 years.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            you have no reason to even reply to my posts. You writing out the words is your way of coping about your inevitable atheism.
            >And I've been in this mindset for about 2-3 years.
            LMAO, i was Christian for exactly 3 years too.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've been a Christian for about 6 years.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        hello me.
        I was an atheist my whole life, became Christian for the sake of being contrarian, attended church, then became autistically obsessed with what the right interpretations of the bible were and abandoning my church, then said "frick this" and became atheist.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts.
    Colossians 3:16

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So long as you won't be shunned for disagreeing on the issues you disagree with, then it's fine. Just gives topics you can talk about with others for dynamic convos.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even if you don't believe all that you hear, it can still be good to get a different angle on scripture. Being challenged can lead to growth. I sometimes consume devotionals I don't completely agree with, because getting a different view than my own helps me keep from getting stuck in a rut when it comes to spiritual development. At the very least, being able to better support your own view and refute falsehoods is a valuable skill to have.

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