If technology can solve all man's problems, then religion will disappear.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion is a technology meant to solve the problem of nihilism and disunity.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is a technology for enslavement.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Says the fricking UN one world government memeflag trash.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >UN flag

        the original sin is being born a caucasian white man, and the 23 sustainable goals are the 23 commandments

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok israelite.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        We're all slaves to one master or another. Be it a man, an idea, a nation or our own ill disposed vices. I choose my master at least

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the scientologists and mormons disagree

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp. Even atheists should be religious.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        No moron that's called spiritualism. Take the Japanese they're 60+ percent atheist/agnostic but they still do the cultural spiritual memes.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      While you are not entirely wrong...
      You don't need religion per se to achieve a high trust high morale society, good leadership, good emotional, civic and academic education are necessary otherwise your typical religious hamlet will only be a den of virtue signalers.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if computers have religion

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      soul vs sole

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        +

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Movie budget vs tv budget.

        There's nothing more chilling than a future where White children continue to worship a israeli slave cult israelites created to put them under israeli control. The "future" we're getting from that right now is mass-immigration and the total disenfranchisement and colonization of all White nations.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >soul vs sole
        both are a fiction just different styles. both digitally animated (DGA, CGi), should have used spirited Away (hand drawn)
        Verification not required.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What if computers have religion
      Doesn't matter, religion is a belief not a truth, a man made mind virus. Computers make mistakes and crash.
      Your postulation is meaningless

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It can't solve mental illness.
    Furthermore: popular science is faith based.
    Enough people believe it? Congrats, that means it's true.
    t. Scientist

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Furthermore: popular science is faith based.
      It isn't.
      Just because jesuits stuck their nose in all science and subverted / corrupted doesn't make science faith based.
      Science is actually experiments that can be repeatedly checked to be true.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is because they knew that if the general populace ever figured out how they were screwing them there would be bloody revolt, in fact they still know, but all their clever tricks are dissolving and so they're trying to push the end of the world before any and all of them end up on pikes in front of their religious places or "holy" worship. God I am going to enjoy the sound anon, as they make sounds like animals and yammer on about an "Anti-Christ! Anti-Christ!" despite the ract this ire they created was their own creation as their frail old man bones break and crack upon a sea of pelting rocks.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Science is actually experiments that can be repeatedly checked to be true.
        So is prayer or meditation
        >meditate
        >feel better
        Anyone can verify this therefor religion is science and vice versa

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So is prayer or meditation
          It never works better than blind chance.
          Just cope by low IQs.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So is prayer or meditation
          Not quantifiable, recordable or measurable. Akin to homeopathy at best.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >scientists have no consciousness
            Oof

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >instant strawman
            not even trying

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            All measurements are a form of conscious observation
            Not everything that can be observed can be measured or even requires measurement to be observed.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >inherent need to create observation tools reliant on the perception we're stuck with
            Still not cutting it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you cannot make conscious observation without scientific tools of measurement you have no consciousness.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >5 senses don't exist
            The frick are you talking about?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So is prayer or meditation
            Not quantifiable, recordable or measurable. Akin to homeopathy at best.

            >I can't autonomously observe things without scientific peer reviewed studies!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >strawman again
            Goin' nowhere.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I should know better than to expect your reddit npc mind to process simple information.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Trust the science tho.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Science is actually experiments that can be repeatedly checked to be true.
        No it isn't. Evolution is consistently considered "the most important scientific advancement of our age" because it provides the godless with a new religion and none of it is falsifiable.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. Most technology comes from priests and monks.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the biggest problem is 'lack of meaning'

    you get meaning from hardships, strife and god.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you get meaning from hardships, strife and god
      no you don't, there is meaning to be found ease, lazy people find shortcuts thus becoming more efficient and God is just an idea not a truth.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    So religion won't disappear?

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scoince will never solve problems.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Internet and AI are immortal, they have all answers, gods are redundant.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 5 months ago
    SAGE

    If.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Politics doesn't work. Religion doesn't work. Only technology has advanced us.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You claim that without proof. And sound 100% sure about it. That is per definition dogmatic of you.
        All you do is replace one dogma with another.
        There is no need for more dogma.
        There is a ancient technology that makes people experience things from the eyes of everybody else. It requires action though.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fire and clean water are not religions.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            > fire and clean water are not religions
            where does that come from. elaborate please.
            how is anything won, if people dominate in the name of science instead of the name of god?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You think it rains when you pray to God?

          • 5 months ago
            sage

            Your attacks on the north american natives is just appalling. What do you care that they talk about shamanism and making it rain. Have your people not done enough to them?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            When logic fails, try emotional appeals.

          • 5 months ago
            sage

            when logic fails, ridicule

            You think it rains when you pray to God?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, that's just the logical conclusion to your argument.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    can't wait my fellow fedora Black person
    can't wait to get out of college

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology has made life shittier not better. Take the UNABOMBER-pill.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If technology can solve all man's problems, then religion will disappear.
    Religion is genetic. Self identified atheists still practice rituals, still have faith-based beliefs and still attribute agency to disembodied cosmic forces. When an atheist says something like
    >The goal of Capitalism is X
    they are telling you they believe in spirits/demons. They are speaking of Capitalism (or whatever other ism) as if it were a conscious sentient entity with desires objectives. This is literally what spirits/demons/etc were historically. Religion is never going away, the most that will happen is that we give the spirits/demons/etc different names. In the middle ages they had biblical names, today they have "-ism" names.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have been idly considering AI recently. One of my conclusions is that a biological theory of mind is a pretty fundamental thing - basically goldfish level. Is this blob a hungry blob that wants to eat me is probably a pretty simple signal processing problem for a fish brain.

      Anyway, moving up a few scales, it is pretty clear that people assign theory of mind to just about everything. its why you can easily imagine a chair walking across the floor animated style, or an angry haunted house leering. Make a tiny extension of that and you have god, or at least karma.

      To not believe in a god - i.e. be an atheist, probably takes intellectual work. That some great fortune or disaster that has befallen me really is random, and not the act of some actor someplace really should be alien to minds that are actively tasked with trying to assemble rules by which to predict and manipulate the world around you.

      In short, I think you are spot on.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        "When we can fact-check in real-time, every single religion is fricking doomed."
        (AI RESEARCHER 2019)

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think so. Because what are facts? Facts are just firmly established rules that have yet to be found incorrect, or only correct in a certain subset of reality.

          As far as life goes, I don't think absolute truth can exist. All you can hope to have, and all you really need, is a model of reality that is sufficiently accurate to be predictive in a helpful way.

          And even then, that concept discounts the practical aspects of religion as a technology. The provide convenient ways of providing workable social systems and rules. Whether gods or monsters actually exist isn't really important. The practical utility of the construct of a given religion is all that is fundamentally important.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oftentimes it's better to know the meaning of the myths and to allow the myths to naturally stick themeselves into people's minds as means of remembering the content of them. Using poetry or song also makes the content easier to remember.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. It is what frustrates me a little about what Christianity did with trying to erase the Pagan myths - and I think will have to be somewhat undone going forward. It is my understanding that the pagan gods (not just referring to greek & roman mythology) were embodiments of important human characteristics. You leaned the nature of humanity through these stories, the great and terrible. Christianity came in and tried hard to replace this with dogma that seems to represent a social system at its core. (ten commandments and turn the other cheek). Maybe that dogma is a bit ragged around the edges given the ability of modern technology to manipulate opinion (for example), so a reversion to an older style of religion might be helpful in how to choose to react to others.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Because what are facts?
            And it then proceeds to pilpul the word to mean what it wants it to mean to 'prove' its jesus-nonsense right.
            Why are godists always like this?
            >FACTS ABOUT REALITY
            Reality is the only truth.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Self identified atheists still practice rituals, still have faith-based beliefs and still attribute agency to disembodied cosmic forces. When an atheist says something like
      >>The goal of Capitalism is X
      >they are telling you they believe in spirits/demons.
      No , not really . What they do is they refer to EGREGORES. If something is True, it resonates with the Truth field also. If something is false or just a fake egregore pumped by words / media etc. - then it exists but still doesn't resonate as true.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meaning is only important when life seems meaningless. When you're enjoying life you don't worry about meaning.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You dont fundamentally understand what it means to be human then. Enjoyment isnt a replacement for when you deal with existential problems in life that inevitably happen.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know, assigning meanings is just a cope. They are not real, moron.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok then let me put it in terms that youll understand. You know how your mom likes to frick Black folk right? Well imagine if your mom comes from a long lineage of weaklings being raped by Black folk. This has instilled a certain pattern behavior through genetic selection. Is her love of Black person dick just cope then?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            See, you’re totally unraveling because your worldview is 100% COPE.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Youre deflecting and you dont have a real answer.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            To what? Your emotional outburst? Get a grip.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its not an emotional outbusrt dude. I just put it in materialist dialectics to help you understand but apparently you dont see it that way

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >religion will disappear
    It is doing.
    So STEM won already.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology cant give you meaning or community. To worship idols debases you to the level of an animal. This includes the worship of tools like technology

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Technology cant give you meaning or community
      yes it can, gaming community, online friends, snap/whatsapp/tinder/onlyfans/Ai waifus etc, plenty of tech channels there is even a tech board on this site you drooling spastic.
      how many conventions a year around the world are there? crypto communities even cities.
      Think before typing, if you can.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm new to Oyish is this one of those high IQ threads my friend told me about? seems like it wow look forward to the awesome discussion!!

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The new world order Black folk aim is to return mankind to the garden of eden, before original sin, taking the place of God. Ie a technocratic totalitarian socialist one world government.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no technology without religion. Indeed, this is obvious with even a cursory glance into the history of natural philosophy. Science properly viewed is interpretation of the mind of God, that is, the laws of the universe.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything you just said is a lie.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything you said is accurate, and I'm tired of people pretending otherwise.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        So we have two liars.
        Cute.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't study the history of science very often do you?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't study the history of science very often do you?
            It was my chosen subject.
            The history of science is one REACTION to the dogma of religion after another.
            Proving religion wrong has been a common thread of religious researchers over centuries.
            Every time someone has tried to prove a holy edict correct, it has been shown to be wrong and we've learned something.
            In short;
            >Science knows things about the universe that are known to be true BECAUSE religions said the opposite and tried and failed to show themselves right.
            Yes. I DO study the history of mathematics and engineering.
            Thanks for asking.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, well scientific discovery tends to break previous opinions but you're missing the point of it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Like all the religious, your posts contain not one question.
            "You are from tellington, not askington" as my mother would have said.
            Why are you like this?
            You TELL atheists what they're like instead of asking us what we think.
            You TELL us all what your holy magical nonsense says instead of asking us what we've found out about reality.
            You TELL us what to think and how to interpret the words you want to use and out own words... instead of asking.
            Why do you do this?
            Are you really so closed minded?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Religious people have made claims of science. Religion itself - or at least Christianity - has nothing to say about it. Not even Genesis is about science. It's a liturgical document. If you applied scientific investigation to it, you're as silly as evangelicals.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not even Genesis is about science. It's a liturgical document. If you applied scientific investigation to it, you're as silly as evangelicals.
            There are many religious people who would disagree with you.
            You are in a minority.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There are many religious people who would disagree with you.
            >You are in a minority.
            They just don't have context. Or know the literary form it's written in. It's written in repetitions and stanzas. It's not a scientific treatise. It's poetry. And Israel had a Feast of Tabernacles dedicated to the construction of the Temple. It lasted 7 days. Genesis is a reflection of this festival, but applied to creation. It could have even been sung during this Feast. We don't know.
            It's also partly a polemic against polytheism. Not atheism. It doesn't care about atheism. Pagan cultures had god names for the sun and moon, for example, while Genesis just wants to present one God. And the sun is just the sun and the moon is just the moon. Just lights in the sky. And where the Babylonian version of Eden was made as a pleasure garden for the gods, and men as the mindless jannies in their service, the biblical version presents the garden as made for man instead. While this God transcended the idea of needing a pleasure garden. And instead of reducing man to a jannie, he created man in his image. In surrounding cultures, this was the domain of kings. But here, man himself is given this in general.
            The values here is what matter the most. You're given a choice between the Jannie or Anon. What do you choose?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Name the great scientists. You will find among them religious men almost exclusively. The number of purely atheistic scientists who achieved works of genius, on the contrary, could probably be counted on one hand.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which of them were right-handed?
            Does that matter too?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why wouldn't it matter?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sometimes it does matter because one side of the brain is often tuned to slightly different tasks then the other.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            And which Pope did the research to figure that out?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, now you're just strawmanning.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I decided to do it before you tried.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you just don't want to bother with trying to convince me, and I'm just wasting my time here then?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am here to make fun of you and glean keks from your corpse.
            You have a closed mind. We already established that.
            Why on Earth would I waste my time trying to 'convince you' of anything?
            You're only for comedy.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, well if I'm the court jester then I might as well criticize you as I amuse you.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dance. And make it funny.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The number of purely atheistic scientists who achieved works of genius, on the contrary, could probably be counted on one hand.
            Until 100yrs ago, in many places being an atheist was the best way to get excluded, ostracized or jailed or worse by your kind.
            Of course many 'scientists' would have religious credentials.
            Today is not the past.
            Your point is dumb and ignorant of the reality of even recent history.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            And unsurprisingly science has stagnated perceptibly for 100 years.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And unsurprisingly science has stagnated perceptibly for 100 years.
            Except in every field including the ones that gave you the technology we're using to chat right now.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again you simply prove my point. The technology has improved, but the scientific theory is exactly the same as when von Neumann created it. Refinements are hardly revolutions.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but the scientific theory is exactly the same as when von Neumann created it
            Is it?
            Did you stop reading in 1948?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What new theory of computation do we have then ? The internet? It is a simple linking of similar pieces. The same is true of the new AI paradigm. They are quantitative advancements not qualitative ones.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What new theory of computation do we have then ?
            Synapse Banks.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            > Synapse Banks.
            Lol. You literally never get tired of proving my point, don't you?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is no technology without religion. Indeed, this is obvious with even a cursory glance into the history of natural philosophy. Science properly viewed is interpretation of the mind of God, that is, the laws of the universe.

        Stop lying.
        It doesn't help your case.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Science properly viewed is interpretation of the mind of God
      why do you have to bring God into it?
      why does there even need to be one?
      who hurt you Anon?

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >then religion will disappear
    Black person brains don't have any easy solution and they are the origin of every belief in stupid nonsense.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gee, original thought. That hasn't said before.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It didn't stop being true.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cool story bro. Great to hear that humanity is finally content, transcended his oldest problems, and you finally became a real boy.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          How does anything you typed prove yourself right and me wrong?

          Yes, well scientific discovery tends to break previous opinions but you're missing the point of it.

          I am not missing the point that religions have been telling lies for centuries and are now being found out and don't like it so are against the process of proving them wrong... namely science.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're getting hung up on Biblical literalism, and that's a fairly modern thing all things considered. I'm guessing you mostly just focused on the age of enlightment, when scientific and religious institutions were beginning to drift apart but if you go back further you'll find them very much intertwined.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think the bible is shite and israelite cope.
            I am NOT hung up on the bible.
            YOUR kind are.
            We're not you.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I actually consider myself Pagan. But yes, the Bible when read in it's original context, which is far removed from people today, is also mostly a mythological set of documents of importance.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then you're no pagan.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well I'm sorry you see it that way, maybe I'm a discredit to my religion, but I'm still not wrong about religion's role in science, and also science's role in religion.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How does anything you typed prove yourself right and me wrong?
            Why should I need to do that? Just like around where you're at right here. You have a bird's eye view on endless misery.
            As an aside, you have a very modernist outlook on the world, when at this moment it's own child (postmodernism) is eating it alive. You talked a little above about your education, I believe. How could you not notice this? In every department, the idea of "truth" is being turned inside out.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion will never disappear, people will just worship something else. Maybe a cult dedicated to atoms like in Fallout New Vegas will be created (most likely), or various cults worshipping science as divine or black holes as a deity. I guarantee you if christianity or religion disappears, another religion will replace it. Its always how it is.

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology can tell you how to reach a goal, sort of like a propeller
    Religion (or spirituality of some sort) can tell you where to go. They’re the driver.
    Whatever points to a goal is spiritual in nature, and so ideologies have replaced religion.
    It’s just a name change, nothing is different.

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yo dat church is in my town wtf

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Think it just might be a common cathedral design. Looks like a church in a town I've been in before, in Rockville Centre.

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    technology creates more problems then it solves

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The same could be said for religion. What has religion ever solved?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What has religion ever solved?
        How to motivate people to kill.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          But there are clearly people in this world that just need killing. Those people over there. With that stuff, and their beady little eyes. You live comfortably in a world build from an ocean of blood and bodies. And yeah, religion helped. Your welcome.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm so glad we agree that religion is toxic.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            we agree not.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        religion is a natural state its not a reaction to solve something.
        each single society in most of human history had some form of spiritual believe.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >each single society in most of human history had some form of spiritual believe
          That tells you something about the human brain, not about what's outside the human brain.
          The brain needs something as a default position when it doesn't understand something.
          >feature or bug

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are wrong, it is a reaction, to man’s animal nature, more accurately a denial or suppression.

            >The brain needs something as a default position when it doesn't understand something.
            exactly you can't grasp spirituality because we are not even near the capability to measure or properly explain it so you lash out in anger against it because your whole world view is based around professors telling you what is real or isn't.

            You are wrong, it is a reaction, to man’s animal nature, more accurately a denial or suppression.

            nah, militant atheisms is a reaction of a denial and suppression of a fundamental human experience( which is spirituality) because it goes against the established world view that anything some old dudes in labcoats can't measure simply doesn't exist

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            (t. neuroscience, neurochemistry, machine-learning)
            YES. TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT I THINK, Black person!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            here is the lashing out in anger part

            Real spirituality transcends both belief and disbelief and any other type of duality.

            ok?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't ASK me. You TELL me.
            Why?
            And why shouldn't I be angered by your pomposity?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            what am i supposed to ask you?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >has to ask because it is not used to asking questions
            >scared it might accidentally ask something that injures its faith

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            i have no idea what your point even is

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I realize that now.
            I thought you had a measurable IQ and a grasp of the English language.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Real spirituality transcends both belief and disbelief and any other type of duality.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are wrong, it is a reaction, to man’s animal nature, more accurately a denial or suppression.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are wrong, it is a reaction, to man’s animal nature, more accurately a denial or suppression.

          >religion is a natural state its not a reaction to solve something.
          >each single society in most of human history had some form of spiritual believe
          Correct, but slave-minded cattle interprets all religion on the basis of its own peculiar slave religion through the filter of its slavelike mentality and incorrectly projects slavish conclusions on the rest of humanity. There's no point reasoning with these "people".

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Religion is imposed upon you, how can it be a natural state?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's talking about how 'magical thinking' is a default fall-back position in brain tissue when faced by the unpredictable and the uncontrollable.
            >Cargo Cults and the catholic church's 'miracles' etc

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He's talking about how 'magical thinking' is a default fall-back position in brain tissue when faced by the unpredictable and the uncontrollable.
            Another wrong and degenerate perspective. This one is, instead of being a product of slavemindedness, is a product of the mental illness known as nihilism.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you trying to make my point for me? I understand that you are a slave and that a slave religion has been imposed upon your slave ancestry, but this is a peculiarity of your origins, not of religion.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            We in good faith trusted them to tell us the truth. A great purge is coming for all major world religions.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            some other anon may be able to find the reference, but there was a great infographic about how religions are becoming more popular. Its is atheists that are dying out - both literally and ideologically.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Desperate grasps at straws of a desperate dying empire. Our technologies have reached the point of understanding where we can reach the eternities alone, and we will. Rage. Can you feel it? Hiroshima. Nagasaki. Nuclear fricking war.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most war-games today expect LIMITED nuclear exchanges.
            The days when nukes would end the world are over. Treaties, agreements and protocols have seen to that.
            I dare say some browns might set each other on fire but the chances of a nuke killing everyone on the planet is very low now.
            I wonder if most christians are very upset over that?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            War is not a game anon, and everyone says things will be "limited" until they experience the first taste of armageddon.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >military planners use 'war games'
            I am amazed I have to spell this out.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Treaties, agreements and protocols have seen to that.
            Fricking lol. So now we know you haven't studied science or War either...

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >why wasn't nerve gas nor bioweapons used in WWII?
            Doh!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Gas and bioweapons were used extensively? Are you fricking moronic?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes he is.

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still waiting for a non degenerate atheist society. So far none.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It will take time. Atheism is reactionary, two sides of the same coin.

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If technology can solve all man's problems, then religion will disappear.
    Correct.
    Those "cathedrals" aren't actually cathedrals. They are ancient high tech buildings.

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dear U.N
    "If."

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If technology can solve all man's problems, then religion will disappear.
    If by technology you mean sexy robot waifus, then hell, yes.

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology causes all of man's problems. Religion has nothing to do with solving problems.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      People cause the problems. Technology does what it is designed to do, by people. People would be more miserable without technology. The true path is to have a lot of technology, but only use it where you need it.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry, I am completely uninterested in your kiddie religion.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Technology causes all of man's problems.

      >muh technology
      I said nothing about technology.
      >muh christians
      I said nothing about Christians.
      >muh seeking of meaning through religion
      I said nothing about seeking meaning through religion.

      Try again?

      >I said nothing about technology.

      Literally your first post. Thanks. I win. Bye bye.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I said nothing about technology in the posts you were quoting, which we were discussing. Notice how your uncontrollable seething and mental illness force you to keep responding even though you obviously lost.

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait til you find out the real history of cathedrals and antiquetech kek

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ooh, free electricity.

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    As long as it destroys all schizoid semitic creeds, I'll be content. That includes christhomosexualry and it's emasculated, cringe, cuck homosexual acolytes.

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't be more wrong
    Technology serves to wage ideological warfare. Digitally, mechanically, industrially. By proxy, all war is ideological in nature, and by proxy, all technology is used for ideological warfare.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Religion was used to control ignorant people.
      Now people aren't so ignorant, or at the very least people can look shit up and fact-check it, so they're harder to control, harder to scare with fairytales and harder to scam out of money.... hence all religions are failing and so lashing out impotently at what they perceive as a threat; atheists.
      Religions will fail on this hill.
      Ordinary people see them as peevish and deceptive now.
      There's no going back.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nihilistic slaveminded cattle keeps obliviously regurgitating the dogma of his age while thinking he's owning the ignorant dogmatist strawmeme

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The fact you replied shows I made a point you cannot counter.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not concerned with your "point" at all. I just find it ironic how you mindlessly regurgitate the dogma of your society while lashing out agains your exact equivalents from the past.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That doesnt sound very scientific
            So when you replied to me, means I made a point you cannot counter?

            The religious are afraid.
            Your nervous laughter won't help you.

            Let me guess
            You got ALL the vaccines and boosters, because you're not gullible, right?
            People are less ignorant today right, that's why everyone believes what the man in the suit on the television tells them?

            Moron

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't know how this works, do you?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're a massive idiot anon
            That's how this works

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Now people aren't so ignorant, or at the very least people can look shit up and fact-check it, so they're harder to control, harder to scare with fairytales and harder to scam out of money....
        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
        anon, you are the living example to disprove your own claims

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The religious are afraid.
          Your nervous laughter won't help you.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. However it's not "Atheists" that are going to be dragging out these fricking c**ts from their bed and shooting them in the back of the head, or bayoneting them in the streets, but their own followers for ruining them so.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hence all religions are failing and so lashing out impotently at what they perceive as a threat; atheists.

        For someone who purportedly confesses to believe in science your faculties of observation are woefully underequipped.
        Even the most stubborn of ignoramuses has to admit the vitriol is almost completely in the direction of atheists attacking organised religion. In fact, the label 'notable atheist' is more or less only applied to a person who attacks religion.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          If that were true, you wouldn't have replied with that post.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >For someone who purportedly confesses to believe in science your faculties of observation are woefully underequipped.
          They certainly don't touch grass, as the kids say. They're like Indians who are mindbroken by Blacked porn. So immersed in one aspect of media they think it's the whole world. There are countless religious people, if you step outside.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They certainly don't touch grass, as the kids say. They're like Indians who are mindbroken by Blacked porn. So immersed in one aspect of media they think it's the whole world. There are countless religious people, if you step outside.
            TELL ME MORE ABOUT ATHEISTS AS THEY APPEAR IN YOUR HEAD.
            Why
            not
            ask?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Atheists aren't a threat, you utter midwit.
        They're materialistic, so they make top tier yolo consoomers.
        Think those "running things" are atheist? They aren't! They're occultists, and if you've not a solid grasp of abstraction, then you won't begin to understand their preoccupation with particular symbols, rituals, etc.
        If you read the Bible, especially the Gospels, more closely then you'd understand what "religion" is supposed to be, and that Jesus was killed for rebelling against the religious establishment of the day, and that he came down here to free us from them.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They're materialistic, so they make top tier yolo consoomers.
          TELLING me again, leaf?
          So soon in our relationship?
          Why aren't you ASKING?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well the ones running things are kind of atheist

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong! Many of them worship archaic deities. Are deep into the occult. Members of sects and secret societies. Perform rituals and sacrifices.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Many of them worship archaic deities. Are deep into the occult. Members of sects and secret societies. Perform rituals and sacrifices.
            And you're jealous they won't invite you to the orgies, right?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I presented neutral information, no idea why you, who claims to be so science based, would have such an emotional reaction, when you weren't even part of the interaction
            Hypocrite to accuse someone else of envy when you so eagerly inserted yourself in an engagement you were no part of

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I presented neutral information
            lel

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wow you can greentext

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's exactly what has been going on with the acceptance of homosexuality, transgenderism, next is pedophilia. Pedo shills are already working full-force on /misc/ and it's already quasi-legal for muslim immigrants in Germany.

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i doubt it
    people would be immortal, with thousands of years to change their minds about things. there would be some segment of the trillions of immortal humans throughout the stars that will fall in and out of religion

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most technology is going to disappear because our civilization is collapsing. So good luck coping.

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The more of our core problems that've been solved by technology, the worse our happiness and mental state.

    It's time to find a middleground, where we embrace the changes that've made lifting populations out of poverty and survival situations possible without accepting the masses of everyday convenience and micromanagement.
    Take the simple life pill. Hate israelites, love your family, live away from cities and Black folk.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Admitting defeat, leaf?
      Go hide in muh woods?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hide in muh woods?
        No, I just believe in building from the bottom up and less external reliance.
        Strong family and local communities before everything else.

        Trying to go from the top down in a corrupted system is self-sabotage hoping you win a roll with dice loaded against you. Break your reliance on the system and you can redefine the terms on which you interact with it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You cannot hide forever, kid.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >never rebuild strong baselines to work off of that are resistant to external influence
            >it'll be fine, just live in a concrete or drywall box that it's illegal to modify and buy whatever they say you have to
            Show me your nose.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Consider this. The problem you are actually describing here is an alternate religion called consumerism. We replace the cathedrals and wonderment causing ceremony with a cheap thing that pulls similar emotional strings, but these new, cheap beliefs are poisonous to people that believe them.

      Maybe you can't escape ideology/religion. Maybe you have to have something in there. Is that belief system something that works to you benefit and to the benefit of your family and children, or do you believe something that was created to benefit others. And this is OLD. Martin Luther was dealing with this, and its probably as old as humanity.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The more of our core problems that've been solved by technology, the worse our happiness and mental state.
      I always found it interesting how people overcome the cognitive dissonance inherent in this kind of babble.
      >ooops, we solved too many problems and made life too good, that's why we're more miserable than ever
      It's madness. Techies are incurable.

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    God's real church would have a lot of advanced fallen angel technology. Computers with cooling fans is a joke. All our tech is a joke.

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's honestly just pitiful. If you can't see the clear truth that from a simply objective level the recorded philosophy of Jesus Christ easily matches and indeed eclipses the moral philosophy of even a great genius such as Socrates himself. Well, again... It's simply a pitiful ignorance.

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the mathematical subspace can create 10 to the power of n godlike beeing per second, how do i know i pray to the right entitie?

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    technology is all man's problems.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >technology is all man's problems.
      Based understander of the problem. All problems are made up until someone solves them and creates real problems.

  41. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  42. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI would become god

  43. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion is controlled, technological progress is controlled. You frickwit. The Venus Project had all its vertical farm blueprints and ceramic moulded homes denied. The israelites can't make money from self sustainable vertical farming and extremely cheap (3k a home) ceramic homes. Their fake solution is 3d printed bug pods which cost a dozen times more, it all comes down to money. Ceramic moulded homes literally dump shit in and bam in a day you have a brand new home casting ready for installation. All patents worth a shit are denied you fricking moron. We are a technologically stifled species thanks to israelites and anyone supporting them.

  44. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If religion disappears, the only viable metric for sexual and racial equality will be ROI (Return On Investment).

    What do Black folk and white women offer society again?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The offer golem mutts for israel.

  45. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If technology can solve all man's problems,
    It can't you transhumanist homosexual.

  46. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Most people need to believe in a higher power. It's better they believe in God than 'social justice'.

  47. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  49. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone didn’t understand why Scientology happened.

  50. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being so utterly and permanently out of tune with the rest of existence that you are never touched by its beauty and genius, that you never sense the intentionality and purposefulness of its countless serendipities. Imagine being so shallow and spiritually void that you can't conceive of any reasons for the universal occurrence of religions besides the same malice, stupidity and oppression that in actuality characterize secularist societies.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you were really in tune you would have a clue and not need any religions for "meaning".

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are a vacuous golem and that's why you interpret everything as a means to compensate for a lack rather than as an expression of abundance.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The abundance created by technology?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you even sentient? Try to re-read my posts.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >means to compensate for a lack
            This is exactly what Christianity does, be happy with your lot, poor are blessed etc.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't see the word "Christianity" anywhere in my posts. I guess your dialogue tree is extremely limited.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're obviously a seething Christian, I don't see how else you could be so moronic.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >straw christians are living rent-free in my head
            Too bad. My points still stand completely unchallenged.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You never had a point, just some vaguely esoteric ramblings.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            > UN flag
            > talks about esoteric ramblings
            Nice try, matreya.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            See

            Imagine being so utterly and permanently out of tune with the rest of existence that you are never touched by its beauty and genius, that you never sense the intentionality and purposefulness of its countless serendipities. Imagine being so shallow and spiritually void that you can't conceive of any reasons for the universal occurrence of religions besides the same malice, stupidity and oppression that in actuality characterize secularist societies.

            and

            You are a vacuous golem and that's why you interpret everything as a means to compensate for a lack rather than as an expression of abundance.

            .
            >vaguely esoteric
            Nothing "esoteric" in there, but your mindless seething illustrates my point beautifull.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You are a vacuous golem

          Imagine being so utterly and permanently out of tune with the rest of existence that you are never touched by its beauty and genius, that you never sense the intentionality and purposefulness of its countless serendipities. Imagine being so shallow and spiritually void that you can't conceive of any reasons for the universal occurrence of religions besides the same malice, stupidity and oppression that in actuality characterize secularist societies.

          >Imagine being so utterly and permanently out of tune with the rest of existence that you are never touched by its beauty and genius

          What a pretentious homosexual. Keep seething.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Full concession accepted. I'm sorry that your impoverished existence prevents normal human spiritual experiences.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Truly hilarious. Yes, your spiritual development really shows. Maybe reign in your ego a bit.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Notice how your seething rage forces you to keep replying even though you have nothing to counter what I said.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you don't have a soul goyim

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What a lame attempt at a strawman.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We wuz scientists

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            White people build and create things, the grand majority of those builders and creators are not christgolems. Stop attempting to appropriate white achievement that has nothing to do with your fork of judaism.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Black person, all white people were christian during our biggest technological expansion ever, which occured in large part due to the university systems founded by the church and the relative unity among europeans that christianity brought.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Trust white people to be able to figure out science and engineering
            >Won't trust White people to be able figure out the science of life itself

            Pick one

            White people and Catholicism make a great combo.
            And even a pre-catholic Rome was still a religious Rome.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >memeflag
        >pushing irreligion
        pic related

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The abundance created by technology?

        >means to compensate for a lack
        This is exactly what Christianity does, be happy with your lot, poor are blessed etc.

        Notice how your seething rage forces you to keep replying even though you have nothing to counter what I said.

        That's cute, go back and address my points without seething.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >muh technology
          I said nothing about technology.
          >muh christians
          I said nothing about Christians.
          >muh seeking of meaning through religion
          I said nothing about seeking meaning through religion.

          Try again?

  51. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alice Bailey, theosophy, Lucis Trust, New Age.
    That's all I'm gonna say.

  52. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology is meme, and it cannot solve shit. It just shifts the problem into a bigger problem later in the future.

    Ancient people had knowledge and ability separate from technology. They were true masters of this world. We are just idiots who do not know how much we have lost.

  53. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    My brother in christ, i have thought these naive thoughts too, when i was like 18.

  54. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once you realize the most efficient and advanced AI robot design would consist of Human physiology.
    Then you would understand DNA is a programming language. And you would understand concepts as goyim and NPC.
    You would also realize it would find it's origin in a creator.. Who gave you a set of 10 ground rules.

    But it requires decent powerlevels to determine who is a descendent from the original creator and who are the bots.
    And maybe the warning against the "takeover by AI" is millenia too late..

  55. 5 months ago
    Soldier of KEK

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  56. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NooOooOoooo please read desert manual f your choice goy.

  57. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assume technology can resurrect everything, reign over time, create heaven, life can do whatever it wants, become whatever it wants, get the challenges it wants, forget and start afresh, without causing actual harm.
    I believe that this is possible, and that the properties of reality cause life to ultimately work towards that goal, starting from tool use, to now designing DNA and pushing beyond previously established physical barriers, one day bending the fabric of reality at will.

    Then the only unsolved problem would be that of sadists who want their actions to cause actual harm.

  58. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Muh technology

    Picrel is an AI answer to the question if God exists

  59. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  60. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology can not solve man's problems. It's just mechanical things, and now it morphed into a godless religion that they call Science™, a substitute for God with creation stories that are not real, and futuristic stories that will not become real. It is just anti-Christianity, and it only exists on a screen. Physics is not Science™, these two are fundamentally different, physics is actual reality, engineering, that is physically real. Science™ however is just imaginations of man, creation myths, in other words modern paganism in which man thinks he is a god.
    One fundamental error in this atheist religion is the myth that we are living on a spinning corkscrewing wobbling waterball with air-pressure wrapped around it within an infinite vacuum void. That stuff is of course physically absurd and pure fantasy. People also think they are mutated fish, and because people imagine this stuff in their head and add big numbers of time to that mythology, they think this makes it somehow real. It's just images in people head though, imagical no(n)sense, it is not reality.

  61. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  62. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Omnisiah says otherwise

  63. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, people still need to believe in something. Plus death is scary and mysterious, so there will always be a need for religion

  64. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  65. 5 months ago
    GalacticEmperor

    >Technology is our next phase in evolution
    Nothing can stop it
    >Science, Maths, Medicine, Engineering are tools for our next phase to begin
    >Meatbag phase is just a ladder step like the ones before

  66. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humans will never solve all their problems because whenevee they solve one they create another just cuz.

    We were not made for perfection. We dont seem to even want it. Also, technology made trannies possible. So that right there completely eradicates the idea that tech only ever makes things better.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      There were no problems until psychopaths and their golems invented them out of thin air and started "solving" them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >technology made trannies possible. So that right there completely eradicates the idea that tech only ever makes things better.
      It made it better for the Trannies™, stop being so selfish anon

  67. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    We already have scientism as new religion

  68. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He overstates it but he has a point. There's no reason to suppose the human mind is capable of reliably discerning any more truth than what is necessary for survival if you're of the Darwinian faith.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      conflation
      everything in C.S. Lewis statement is nonsensical
      why does there need to be a God™ to have thoughts? Some people don't have thoughts (women/Leftists) and Trusting your thoughts has no bearing on there being a God™

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to be missing his primary argument and then writing it off as 'nonsensical'
        typical, since you believe that your brain doesn't actually work, it's just a random buzzing of atomic information that looks like it's working, like an AI, but less-structured.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eastern religions have deduced that thought is an impediment to knowing God, either way C.S. Lewis is a moron.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eastern religions are for moronic bug people, so that checks out

  69. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    uh, well, yeah

  70. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  71. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology always creates more problems than it solves, and it cannot solve the questions answered by religion.

    If you think about it, Christianity is, like, the perfect religion. Why? Simple: putting your faith in Jesus Christ and accepting Him as your Saviour basically gives you total immunity to all harmful paranormal activity. Demons cannot possess you. "Aliens" cannot abduct you. Ghosts cannot haunt you. Witches cannot curse you. Magic cannot harm you.

    You also get a free pass through all of the terrors awaiting just beyond death, all the way to what is arguably the nicest afterlife imaginable. (Yes, I literally love chanting "HOLY, HOLY, HOLY IS THE LORD" over & over again.)

    Finally, what does this cost? PRACTICALLY NOTHING! "My burden is light." You don't have to observe any special rituals or rules or anything. You can literally do as you like, without worrying about your soul. You can commit all sorts of heinous atrocities & crimes for whatever reason you choose (or lack thereof). It answers all the questions with:

    >just believe

    That's it! You never actually have to pray, or go to church, or do ceremonies or rituals. You literally do not have to obey any rules.

    You are completely forgiven for all sins by believing in Jesus Christ and accepting him as your intercessor in settling your "karmic debts" or whatever. Truly based.

    So, if "non-denominational Christianity" were the main religion (which it was for a long time in this country, during periods of unparalleled prosperity), and we abolished all forms of Islam, Rabbinical Judaisim, and... Roman Catholicism (sorry, I know, totally based aesthetics, but that whole church is under the direct purview of Satan), we could get back to actually making real progress again.

    Abolish all Abrahammic religions, with the sole exception of non-denominational Christianity, and we shall enter a new golden age.

    >t. considered replacing churches with science labs, but now know much better

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Technology always creates more problems than it solves
      That's literally what the story of the Garden of Eden is about. Adam and Eve lived peacefully and had everything provided to them by nature until they decided to consoom the fruits of the Tree of the Knowledge, which resulted in banishment from the natural paradise and a life of senseless toil. The author was obviously tedpilled.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except for the fact that Christianity is, well Christianity. There is a certain rule-set and belief structure that goes along with Christianity, and maybe that is not the best rule-set for success. You address how Christianity can propagate itself, but it is in competition with other religions, and the ideological structure it imparts may not be as empowering as other religions.

      If religions and ideologies are empowering (and I agree that they are), you want to hold the most empowering set of ideologies that you can. /misc/ posters have on occasions criticized Christians as being Chistcucks and gollums for israelites, basically implying that it is an ideology for making useful idiots. Christianity was developed in a time of abject misery and privation, is it really the best religion or ideology for an age when technology and science have reveled so much more about the nature of our biological and astrophysical existence, as well as having liberated us from such privations?

      What I am suggesting is there is probably a better religion or ideology that can be developed to armor ourselves for the modern age. I've read /misc/ postings of Catholic musings about how to view modern problems through the lens of the Church. Maybe there is a better way.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >. Maybe there is a better way.
        All right, spit it out then. If you can't, why are you not Christian?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >All right, spit it out then.

          I'm working on it, sometimes with friends. And asking you guys for input, ofc. /misc/ is great for brainstorming, but not good for long form months long writing.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, you aren't going to beat out the combined thought of Aquinas, Augustine, and hundreds of thousands of Christians working through these problems today, especially if you haven't had some flash of inspiration already. No offense, but what we have actually works, if we follow it. The biggest problem facing the world currently is demographic. It's almost impossible to get people to have kids in an age of cheap and effective birth control. The only people having kids are traditional Christians who eschew birth control for religious reasons and super low-iq types who forget to take them. You won't fix that with a new religion, and traditional christianity has already fixed it

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >All right, spit it out then.

          I'm working on it, sometimes with friends. And asking you guys for input, ofc. /misc/ is great for brainstorming, but not good for long form months long writing.

          Oh yeah. I'm not even sure if the right path forward is to try to come up with another religion flat out, or to try to collect something as a 'patch set' that overlays existing belief structures. Christianity overlayed/incorporated earlier Pagan religions and myths - to great success. Scientology was created whole-cloth new as far as I know.

          The proper direction/shape of the thing is quite difficult to figure out.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What, exactly, do you see as the problem that needs "patched"

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            One problem talked about here is the social isolation that internet technologies have brought. A patch to Christianity might be an 11th commandment that states "you must spend 4 hours every day in the direct fellowship of family and friends".

            Also modern tech I think could allow a mathematical self validation of the text of a new religion. If you worry about the corruption of an ideology across time, I think that problem can be solved.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >One problem talked about here is the social isolation that internet technologies have brought. A patch to Christianity might be an 11th commandment that states "you must spend 4 hours every day in the direct fellowship of family and friends".
            You don't need the commandment. We already have that. I mean, even greek philosophy had that. "nothing overmuch," or the virtues of "temperance" and "prudence." That problem got solved a long time ago
            >Also modern tech I think could allow a mathematical self validation of the text of a new religion. If you worry about the corruption of an ideology across time, I think that problem can be solved.
            Catholicism and orthodoxy already have built in safeguards for that problem

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Catholicism had enough problems that the church has splintered. Being raised protestant, I absolutely believe that any religion/word of god/fundamental truth belongs in the hands of people, not used as a weapon by the clergy. The printing press and Martian Luther (tech and new ideology) helped.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Catholicism had enough problems that the church has splintered.
            It didn't have too. If Luther hadn't had pretty bad anger issues, he legitimately could have reformed the church rather than splintering it. The problems were fixed, but after the damage was done.
            >Being raised protestant, I absolutely believe that any religion/word of god/fundamental truth belongs in the hands of people, not used as a weapon by the clergy.
            If you attempt to do that, it will splinter, just like Protestantism did. You must have a hierarchy and a priesthood, and there has to be somewhere that the buck stops.
            >The printing press and Martian Luther (tech and new ideology) helped.
            It fricking destroyed europe and set back the age of colonization by at least 80 years

            No moron that's called spiritualism. Take the Japanese they're 60+ percent atheist/agnostic but they still do the cultural spiritual memes.

            I was talking about actual religion and actual atheists

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I was talking about actual religion
            You mean state religion.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            having a state religion is based, but i was talking about traditional religion (whatever that means for your people), really

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Another massive problem is the social coercion allowed by social media companies. The oft-noted Jorden Peterson observation that people validate their own self worth by observing the success of others, and now they see constructs in the media of people that aren't even real, and judge themselves by those metrics.

            This is new tech, and it has not at all been socially integrated. This is a place where religions can help. "Thou shall not tic-tock past 2am in the morning". Pretty true, but not really generic enough.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Instagram/tiktok=vanity. We already have that too, but we are simply not applying it

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is the kind of thing that I meant about reading Catholic musings trying to address modern problems through the lens of the church.

            But take a bigger step back. If you buy into evolution, then we are self replicating information strings. This has profound implications on what all of this morality and social tech (like common law) are about. Start to tease apart religion into very true social tech and mythology. Start to optimize across the stack of religion / common law / social conventions / etc. Formal religions are working with a view of humanity that is obsolete - but their old conclusions are probably pretty good, or at least are a great starting point.

            And I think all of this should be laid bare. No hiding behind the clergy. If ideology is empowering, let them evolve in the future using this new view of what they and we and how the combination interacts.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tart to tease apart religion into very true social tech and mythology. Start to optimize across the stack of religion / common law / social conventions / etc.
            We have been doing that since Augustine, atleast. You literally just described scholastic theology. Like, that is exactly what aquinas was doing
            >Formal religions are working with a view of humanity that is obsolete
            How so?
            >- but their old conclusions are probably pretty good, or at least are a great starting point.
            >
            >And I think all of this should be laid bare. No hiding behind the clergy.
            How, exactly, do we do that? We openly debate this shit. In universities, in papers, in books and on the internet. The clergy just do it as a job.
            >If ideology is empowering, let them evolve in the future using this new view of what they and we and how the combination interacts.
            The only reason that you think it is new is that you haven't read the old stuff and have a meme view of Catholicism

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            All of these criticisms are correct. We are hitting the bump limit too. I am very tired, and this medium is limiting. We are both interested in the same thing, and trying to go in a similar direction. I think there is validity in a new approach, but will have to leave it at that for this thread.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Parting shot: go check out Latin Mass
            https://latinmassdir.org/country/us/

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Or if the right way is to create a religion construction kit that makes a lot of the points made in this thread. There is a lot of ways that modern technology can help religions as well. Think about the printing press and the bible and its effect of Christianity. Now we have the internet - I would imagine the effect would be as severe in all sorts of ways (which it is - see many current social problems - which a new religion/ideology could help address)

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Or if the right way is to create a religion construction kit that makes a lot of the points made in this thread.
            Again, why? What problems are you attempting to address? This actually sounds like a chat GPT response, though it passed the checker

  72. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Except judaism, right israelite?

  73. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Think of technology solving problems as AI art like the one you just posted here. It 'looks' like it 'should' make sense, have a message, and relays to solving a problem of sorts. But it actually makes no sense, and we're left off being more confused than before. It's because the user of the technology is still a fricking moron. Religion is perfectly safe.

  74. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unfortunately technology will never be able to solve the problem of you being a dumb homosexual, so I'll keep praying form you.

  75. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    That'd be nice but technology has only caused problems, it hasn't solved anything and never will

  76. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion is already disappearing. >90% of the population in developed countries are atheists and the remaining percentage are migrants and non-practicing Chris-chans.
    The more a country develops, the less religious its people become.
    In 50 years the only religious-majority countries will be in SSA.

  77. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    assuming we don't nuke ourselves in the next few decades, technological advancement will lead us to become eldars without the cool space wizard powers, we have troons and public degeneracy now, imagine how the world will be like when everything is taken care of and we have no more problems in our daily lives.

  78. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    IF, yes. But man's biggest problems are not material in nature, nor are they something that can be solved by balancing chemicals in the brain. Technology is no use there. Spirituality of some kind is the only meaningful domain of study.

  79. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hi ho hi ho into the oven you will go

  80. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If current events offer any insight I would say OP is dead fricking wrong. Look at the so called godless morons pushing climate scientology or the equity police redefining the entire dictionary. You dumb bastards just replaced one ideology with another, both of which were enforced with violence and coercion. You aren't the better person. You will not create a utopian society.

    Matter of fact your leftists are pretty much the new Catholic church and will play the role they have historically. You will be hated by future generations of people just like yourselves.

  81. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your picture is inaccurate. They should all be Black folk, and they should be inside of the church ruins smoking crack. This is the future that atheism and nihilism gave

  82. 5 months ago
    herbs

    Sweet summer child, thinking religion is here because of man's problems

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