If God and Jesus share the same essence why dont they have the same characteristics? Why isn't Jesus omnipotent?

If God and Jesus share the same essence why dont they have the same characteristics? Why isn't Jesus omnipotent?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christ is omnipotent. He is God. What makes you think otherwise?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      If he's omnipotent, why were the temptations a challenge?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If he's omnipotent, why were the temptations a challenge?
        Prove that they were. Just because you are tempted, doesn't mean said temptation is actually working on you. A woman can tempt me with her ass, but that doesn't mean I'm actually affected by that temptation.

        >But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

        >Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

        >>But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
        Incorrect reading, redditheist. Jesus is merely saying that only the Father has the authority to make known the day of Judgement, and that it wasn't for him to tell the Apostles the time and date of his Second Coming. Not that he didn't know the hour. You can find this clarified in Acts 1:7.
        , if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
        This is the incarnate Jesus speaking from his human nature, not his divine nature. Do you even know what the hypostatic union is, you blihering redditheist moron?

        Don't know how anyone could read the gospels and come away with the idea of the trinity. It's completely incoherent and fully absent from the writing itself.

        Incredibly telling that every interpretation of Jesus which developed independent of degenerate Roman influence adopted Arian "heresies". It's the plain reading of the text. They had to threaten people with death and hellfire and prevent them from reading the scripture to convince them otherwise.

        Northern Europe before the Romans invaded and forced conversion, was already Christian but didn't believe in this nonsense. The Arab world was powerful enough to develop in isolation and Islam also takes a plain reading of the text. etc.

        >Don't know how anyone could read the gospels and come away with the idea of the trinity. It's completely incoherent and fully absent from the writing itself.
        Do you dare to challenge me on the Trinity? Give me ten verses in the Gospels that supposedly "disprove" the Trinity and I will knock down every single one of them by the grace and power of the Triune God.

        I love destroying puffed up redditheists who learn a few buzzwords and read a few footnotes about early Christian history and think they know it all, lol.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no man knows except the father
          >acts says the father knows and sets it
          >nowhere in this passage does it indicate that jesus knows
          holy cope.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, it's not cope. The word for "know" that was used in that verse isn't strictly limited to usage in regards to the intellect. It's the same word that Paul uses in 1 Cor. 2:2.

            I can't wait to see you burn in hell. It'll be glorious. Don't convert to Christianity, I beg of you.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I can't wait to see you burn in hell. It'll be glorious. Don't convert to Christianity, I beg of you.
            Do you really think God would be happy with your desires to see another never receive salvation and taking sadistic pleasure at the thought of them being punished for it?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, he wouldn't be. I can repent of this later, though, I don't give a frick. As long as you don't join Christianity. We're just coping, bible-thumping schizophrenics, right? Let this conception of us remain entrenched in your mind.

            >can't wait to see you burn in hell. It'll be glorious. Don't convert to Christianity, I beg of you.

            Most loving christian

            Frick you. Just stay an atheist, okay? Don't join our dead God cult. You're right; it's all cope. Leave us be.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are so full of hate; I'll pray for you

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Got anything else to say for yourself?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah. I'm pretty sure I dissuaded you quite assuredly from joining my religion. I just want to crush every mite and sliver of doubt that you might possess in the idea of the existence of God. I don't desire your salvation at all.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            May I ask who taught you?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Taught me what? To despise arrogant, sophist punks like you? Well, to take a page out of the atheistic handbook: it's only natural.

            So, you won't be joining Christianity, yes? You're right, you know, the Bible is full of contradictions. Religion is a sham. You've thwarted me. Now frick off.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            We can all have a bad day, I don't begrudge you. I was simply wondering whether you learned this mindset from someone.

          • 6 months ago
            spbp

            Nah. I'm pretty sure I dissuaded you quite assuredly from joining my religion. I just want to crush every mite and sliver of doubt that you might possess in the idea of the existence of God. I don't desire your salvation at all.

            Taught me what? To despise arrogant, sophist punks like you? Well, to take a page out of the atheistic handbook: it's only natural.

            So, you won't be joining Christianity, yes? You're right, you know, the Bible is full of contradictions. Religion is a sham. You've thwarted me. Now frick off.

            this is what an e-larper looks like

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, not a larper. Just tired of people trying to denigrate and disparage my religion. I'd rather the hearts of these people just remain hard, even unto eternal hellfire.

            We can all have a bad day, I don't begrudge you. I was simply wondering whether you learned this mindset from someone.

            I learned it from Christianity. There's no hate like Christian love, right? Remain atheist. We're all crazy fricks. Die, die, die.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            My friend, I never called you "crazy", but I do sympathize with your bitterness. However, other people feel bitterness towards Christianity that is just as understandable, given their interaction with certain people.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >However, other people feel bitterness towards Christianity that is just as understandable, given their interaction with certain people.
            They can remain bitter, then. If the morons on this board wanted a sincere dialogue about their theological qualms, then I would've been more than happy to oblige them, but what I've noticed is that they only want to cause others to stumble in their faith. Christians around the world are more poorly catechized than ever; people couldn't even defend the deity of Christ or the Trinity if their life depended on it, and instead of retreating into the rich 2,000 ecclesial tradition to help address their doubts, you instead have morons like OP who simply refuse to accept correction and reproof.

            No. Frick off. Just leave Christianity instead. Rather just spit out the bones and preserve the meat.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            if a question on an imageboard makes you stumble in your faith then you are not part of the elect
            thank you for playing

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >elect
            I take it you espouse Calvinism, yeah? moron. Bet you're gonna quote Romans 9, too, as if that'll help you. Try it against me, Black person. I'll destroy you and your evil God too, b***h.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            atomic cope

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, he wouldn't be. I can repent of this later, though, I don't give a frick.
            Repenting only counts if you're sincere and turn from your evil ways. This isn't a laps of judgement or making the wrong choice in a tough or ambiguous situation, this is willfully going against God. This will always prove a stumbling block to your faith and relationship with God, one you are obviously not pursuing with your whole heart.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >can't wait to see you burn in hell. It'll be glorious. Don't convert to Christianity, I beg of you.

            Most loving christian

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The word in The original text can be translated as both tested and tempted, so it was less him being tempted, but basically testing his divine will's leading his human will.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      why did he curse the fig tree instead of making it do his will

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

      >Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't know how anyone could read the gospels and come away with the idea of the trinity. It's completely incoherent and fully absent from the writing itself.

        Incredibly telling that every interpretation of Jesus which developed independent of degenerate Roman influence adopted Arian "heresies". It's the plain reading of the text. They had to threaten people with death and hellfire and prevent them from reading the scripture to convince them otherwise.

        Northern Europe before the Romans invaded and forced conversion, was already Christian but didn't believe in this nonsense. The Arab world was powerful enough to develop in isolation and Islam also takes a plain reading of the text. etc.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          The trinity isn't even an original Christian concept. It was pretty common of philosophers to describe the world in similar terms. Jesus is often equated with Logos, for example

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            False. Nicea settled that the church always believed in the trinity. It can be seen in many earlier Christiani writings like in Irenaeus's Against Heresies, Origin, and Tertullian. It goes to show Mormons are ignorant morons.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Early christians weren't protestants who believed in sola scriptura. They learned directly from the apostles and their disciples. The seeds of Trinitarian Christianity are present it the gospels, especially John, but they were much more explicit in oral Church tradition. The doctrine of the Trinity wasn't refined until a couple centuries later when well-educated Greek aristocrats started converting en mass, and they had to make platonic/aristotelian sense out of Christian ideas.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The first council was called to force trinity theology because the question of Jesus' divinity was dividing the Roman empire. Writings of the opposition were ordered to be destroyed on pain of death.

            >Early christians weren't protestants who believed in sola scriptura
            Yeah nobody thinks that but the writings are all we have considering any competing groups were destroyed.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            What an utterly pathetic ideology, kek. Imagine wasting an entire empire for this shit.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the question of Jesus' divinity was dividing the Roman empire
            No it wasn't. You had a few heretics and germanic barbarians challenging the prevailing apostolic tradition which had existed for centurues. Also the gospels are not all we have. We have the entire rest of the new testament, writings of early church fathers and existing church tradition, hymnography, prayers and liturgies which date back to the early first millennium.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus (pbuh) was not God, nor did he share His essence, nor was he omnipotent.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day, sand monkey.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If God is real, then why did he allow Andrew Tate to exist?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If God is real, then why did he allow Andrew Tate to exist?
      Hahaa....
      For real....
      Like why did Andrew fricking Tate have to exist?

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being omnipotent and not being omnipotent simultaneously is a contradiction.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Spams three threads like a Black person
    have a nice day

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