If both God and Jesus share the same will, why does Jesus create a distinction between his will and his fathers will?

If both God and Jesus share the same will, why does Jesus create a distinction between his will and his fathers will?

>Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    christians btfo'd by based muslims again

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      the LARPers on this board will deflect from the question and whine about muh gaytheists despite OP never stating what his faith is and avoid the argument

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off. You sound like a broke as homie in real life

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          coping! and sneeding!

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >can't answer op, lashes out in impotent anger
          Many such cases

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If both God and Jesus share the same will
    Not really, their wills are completely in tune with one another, but they are still two separate Persons who can act independently of each other.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >their wills are in tune... EXCEPT WHEN THEY ARENT

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is no instance at which they aren't.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Father, if thou be willing
          >nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
          LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not my will, but thine, be done
            Right, so their wills are in tune, He made a request, but stated that ultimately it is the Father's Will to be done.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            If their wills were in tune then he wouldnt have made the distinction between my will and the father's will. He wouldnt have made the request either

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If their wills were in tune then he wouldnt have made the distinction between my will and the father's will.
            I said that their wills are in tune, not that they are one and the same.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I said their wills are (my ambiguous definition) not that they are (definition everyone knows)
            alright bro thank you for playing

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            What ambiguous definition, moron?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not my will, but thine be done
            If their wills are completely in tune then this sentence makes no sense because it is impossible for Jesus's will to be done without his Father's will being done. It wouldn't make sense to prioritize one over the other.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I believe this is correct.

      >their wills are in tune... EXCEPT WHEN THEY ARENT

      wills are in tune... EXCEPT WHEN THEY ARENT

      If you reword a sentence, you can seem smart for a bit of time by attacking what they other person didn't actually say.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because God the Father isn't about to be tortured to death while being a human. Furthermore, being human means that Jesus has to do what humans are supposed to: pray when we're in distress.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are their wills united or not?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. You can have conflicted feelings and still be united. Humans do it all the time. I doubt God the father wanted Jesus to suffer and die, but that's the way God decided it was going to play out as a show of sacrificial love for humanity.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus has both a human and a divine will.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    christians took another L today, oof

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am not a Christuan but one way to reason this out is Jesus' will being a subset of God's greater will. A part of it but not the same.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    JESUS HAS AN ADDITIONAL HUMAN NATURE, YOU moron. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE HYPOSTATIC UNION IS? AND HE LITERALLY SAYS IN THE VERSE YOU QUOTED: THINE WILL BE DONE. THEIR WILLS ARE INSEPARABLY UNITED.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If both God and Jesus share the same will

    This premise should be examined. I'm saying it should be examined in particular and in essence. I think that's something you hear in church but won't find in a bible.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      exactly where did this idea come from, why do larpers here keep saying it? Show some bible verses

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever faced death?

    Christ is a man, like you are. But this too, he really knew what he was going into. What would you say in his position?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didnt Christ know about his divine nature? About the fact that he's also fully God?
      There have been people that faced death without flinching and they didnt know they're an eternal omnipotent being either

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but you have to remember Jesus was only a man for 33 years at that point, with 1000 years being argued to be just a day to God, was something he arguably wasn't used to. Even then, after the garden, he doesn't seem to waiver at all afterwards. Even those guys had a moment of weakness being.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus live as a man with the mind of a man. He viewed the world through human eyes and heard through human ears, felt hunger, thirst, and sleepiness, and all the other things a human has to deal with. He was also perfect and always did the right thing, but that doesn't mean he didn't have needs. Jesus didn't even really waver in the garden. He was never not going to do what he was supposed to do, even if the fact he was going to be tortured to death was weighing heavily on him.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    All members of the trinity godhead have a shared divine will, but when Jesus became human, he gained a human will, which reflected his humanity. Jesus just submitted his human will to the divine will, all throughout his life.
    >inb4 aren't those mutually exclusive?
    No, look at 3rd council of constantinopole and council of chalcedon.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine caring so much about a israeli psyop you spend years of your life trying to reconcile its ridiculous nature and defending it from any and all criticism.

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