I was raised a Christian, and everyone around me is a Christian or at least pretends to be.

I was raised a Christian, and everyone around me is a Christian or at least pretends to be. I adhere to religious practices around people, like saying prayers with meals. I've always had doubts about the truth of religion, Christianity, and religion as a whole ever since I was a young teen. For a long time, I just simply don't believe anymore. I don't believe the bibles are the words of God, or a god, or that they were divinely inspired, or words given by prophets. I don't believe in God, or Satan, or the divinity of Jesus Christ, or any gods. I think the words were just written by schizos and charlatans. I have sympathy for Christians, and I'll call myself a Christian, because I don't want to mention my secret atheism to anyone. I even consider myself one, because Chrstianity is my background, and how I was raised and my parents, going back to my all of my recent ancestors. I feel guilty mentioning it anonymously online.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guilt is used a tool used to keep you under control. If I learned anything from society its that. You should only feel guilty if you have actually harmed someone.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    You never lost faith, you just gained faith in something much more harmful, boring, unnatural, and ultimately useless. One converts to atheism in the same way one converts to Islam.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, I didn't involve myself in discussion of atheism before the ideas I have in my head had solidified. I ignore religious topics online almost always. I've heard atheism arguments before but most of them sounded bad. My atheism began before I even knew it was a word, and before those ideas were communicated to me. I went to a specific denomination of Christianity school, which was much more Christian than most schools. I had limited access to internet and television.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Amusing. You revealed that you think your self-perception as a "free thinker" who came to his own conclusions is important when to me this is entirely beside the point of what I wrote. In reality of course there is nothing novel or unique about your conversion, it is in fact the norm. You wandered blindly away from a faith you never understood into one that was a more natural fit for you.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Amusing. You revealed that you think your self-perception as a "free thinker" who came to his own conclusions is important when to me this is entirely beside the point of what I wrote. In reality of course there is nothing novel or unique about your conversion, it is in fact the norm. You wandered blindly away from a faith you never understood into one that was a more natural fit for you.
          Kek. Christhomosexuals are really sending their best

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche calls you a flathead. If you don't believe then you should just be honest

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    this stems from ignorance of Scripture.
    go study.

    used to be the same in my edgy teen phase before i seriously picked my Bible up.
    don't let doubts be a shield to protect this ignorance against truth, and run to solve them.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's like 50% of western christians at this point
    people stay in religion as a cope because they're scared of not knowing what happens when you die, and because they feel guilty about going against their family and social circle. Religion is a convenient lie, and most people will never admit that it is a lie due to its convenience. People want it to be true so much that they'll lie to themselves about it their whole lives, hoping that one day they'll actually believe it.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Religion is a convenient lie
      [citation needed]

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        see

        It's OK to not believe. If you want to believe, then eventually, you will.

        they literally say it themselves
        >oh don't leave the church, just keep trying to believe! If you pray to jesus enough, you'll learn to believe in magic and shit, just keep trying and please don't stop coming to church everyone still here is nearly dead

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >this random reply that might aswell be a samegay is le proof!

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why would a Christian, of all people, talk about proof

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dude you're forming misconceptions about someone else's religion while telling people that actually practice it what you think it says instead of listening to them explain it to you.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The post you're replying to was my first post in this thread. I'm not that anon

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            meant for you

            Dude you're forming misconceptions about someone else's religion while telling people that actually practice it what you think it says instead of listening to them explain it to you.

            what a mess lol

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >this random reply that might aswell be a samegay is le proof!

          Why would a Christian, of all people, talk about proof

          Dude you're forming misconceptions about someone else's religion while telling people that actually practice it what you think it says instead of listening to them explain it to you.

          The post you're replying to was my first post in this thread. I'm not that anon

          meant for you [...]
          what a mess lol

          Indeed, what a mess. Are you finished? Let me tell you about my experience.
          I was raised in the church and I saw that it was a place full of hypocrites, exactly who Jesus had his nastiest curses for. So, eventually I stopped believing. There's nothing but this life. My sister eventually convinced me to go to a pagan gathering, and I figured that since it wasn't real, it should be fun. That's where I was wrong. Pagans rocked my worldview and convinced me of "the other side." There must be some sort of energy field around people. There must be psychic activity. THAT must be real, because I thought something, and someone across the room said exactly what I was thinking. I could not explain that, and so my journey back to God began. If human ghosts are real, then so is the Holy Ghost.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they're scared of not knowing what happens when you die
      meme fricking response.
      Hell sounds a lot better than living this shit existence in this cursed time frame.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's OK to not believe. If you want to believe, then eventually, you will.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't believe because you haven't recognized the consequence that Sin has over humanity. People become Christian because they realize Jesus is the only one capable of delivering them from Sin. Christ came to save sinners, not the righteous. It is the sick who need a doctor, not the healthy. You do not appreciate the value of your Christian traditions because you have not recognized your need for Christ. We cannot save ourselves on our own, for if that were the case the world would never have fallen to begin with.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like this. How old are you, out of curiosity? I am so tired of all Christians I run into online being teenagers. I think that you don't really believe, until you've lived a little, been on your own, and then naturally came back. I guess like the story says. Also I'm sick of young people.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I went to Catholic school my whole life and had both a Christian phase and an Atheist phase. Now I just say I don't know, that I can't know for sure so I don't confirm nor deny the existence or lack thereof of any God or Gods. I used to think this was called Agnosticism but recently I read this discussion between some people online that you can be an Atheist Agnostic or a Christian Agnostic and I didn't really understand so maybe it's valid to call myself Agnostic maybe not I don't know

    If Catholicism was the only religion in the world I'd probably be more inclined to believe, but when there's so many different religions (yes, only a few are widespread, but still) and there's no way to tell which one is right since they all claim theirs is the true one I'll just accept the possibility that maybe all, none, or some of them are true

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but when there's so many different religions (yes, only a few are widespread, but still) and there's no way to tell which one is right since they all claim theirs is the true one
      This is such a weird thing to be hung up on when looking into different faiths because they all conflict one another. The truth is consistent, it does not change: it is either the truth or it is not the truth. Look into these religions yourself and what claims they make and earnestly examine them. You will find that this is not as much of a maze as you think it is. If you cross examine the Bible and the Quran, for example, it is easy to see that the claims that the Quran makes about it being a "preservation" of the OT is simply not true since its laws are inherently conflicting. I'm not going to spoon feed you information, though. If you truly do seek the truth then you will find it, but you have to be willing to put in the work.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Look into these religions yourself and what claims they make and earnestly examine them
        I might one day, maybe when I finish my degree and can only focus on work + other stuff. I've always wanted to give religion a fair try before discarding it
        What if I come to a different conclussion than yours though, regarding the truth?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >What if I come to a different conclussion than yours though, regarding the truth?
          Again, the truth is consistent, it does not change and it is not relative either. If the sky is blue the sky is blue, if standards exist then standards exist, if morality exists then morality exists, even if we do not want it to. If you seek the truth earnestly you WILL find it, but whether or not you will accept it is entirely up to you, but it will have been entirely your own choice and you deserve the right to look at things with your own eyes (and you should).

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            What else do you recommend reading/studying besides the Bible, Quran, Vedas, Tripitaka, Talmud, Tao Te Ching, etc? (Basically the sacred scriptures of the major religions / belief systems)

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Religion is literally based upon faith and not scientific evidence. This means, that there is no objective truth. You can cross examine every religious text, but you will not come to a objective and clear solution. The only thing you can do is choosing to believe in the religion that resonates the most with you, which will be different for each person

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know the supernatural is real. It's not a matter of belief. I know that it's real, and that it doesn't like when we do bad things. Now, I could reduce that further and say that I know the supernatural is real and that it doesn't like, and doesn't want, me, to be a pedo. That is, when you strip all things down to just the facts, zero speculation, that's what I know. But you can extrapolate from it. The supernatural is real, it doesn't want us to be bad. That's where I started. Everything else is faith. But please believe me. Because if it cares, then there must be a reason for it to care. There must be consequences. There must be virtue in being good. Meaningful virtue, beyond just human stuff. Believe this, you who reads this. I'm not making it up. I haven't ever hallucinated before, and it'd be odd for this to be the one time in my life, never before and never again.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Wait skydaddy no real??
    >Me give up on knowing good and evil exist because stories have no message apparently
    >Be epic atheist now
    >Time to rationalize my relativism way of thinking with shit that degrades society
    Be agnostic or gnostic at best, because damn anon if there is no universal truths we ought to strive for, we get these insufferable homosexuals.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if there is no universal truths we ought to strive for
      You can strive for whatever you want, but telling me a israeli titan is the only truth in the universe and I'm foolish for not kissing his golden feet is idiotic at best and completely delusional at worst. Whether humanity's purpose is found through research and discovery or seeking out a hidden wizard somewhere shouldn't matter and someone who thinks your wizard is a waste of time might be right and might be wrong he's not "degrading" anything.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was raised a Christian, but everyone around me became atheists (though most are in the closet at least partially).

  12. 8 months ago
    soy sauce rapist

    yeah, all religion is bullshit made to control people's minds.
    >le loving god will send you to eternal fire if you don't follow my, uh I mean, god's rules!!
    god exists. I've seen and spoken with god. religion =/= god.

    but it doesn't matter if you believe me or believe in god's existence or not. this is life, not fantasy. a loving god does not care what you do with your life.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finally, a thread that isn't about sex or chad. Thank you op

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is dying, it is an indefensible belief, because we've learned so much in the last 100 years about the origin of our species and all of life. There's no mystery anymore about how or why we are here. The history or our Earth and how it came to be has been discovered. Life can be traced back all they way to single celled organisms. The only reason Christianity has believers in the modern world is because they indoctrinate children and have their own schooling system. No one would believe it, if they didn't groom kids.

  15. 8 months ago
    Niggerman

    God hates Black folk

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