I have studied the history of the Christian Church. And I came to the following conclusions.

I have studied the history of the Christian Church. And I came to the following conclusions. Orthodoxy and Catholicism are two branches of the same church, which are subordinate to different patriarchs. And Protestantism is not a Christian church at all in its original meaning, just a Bible study club. What am I wrong about and why?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Dirk

    >in its original meaning
    Which is?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

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    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The church established by the apostles

      • 6 months ago
        Dirk

        How does that disqualify all Protestants? Take the waldensians. They aren't christian churches?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do they have direct ordination from the apostles? Do they carry out the decisions of the ecumenical councils?

          • 6 months ago
            Dirk

            I'm asking you to substantiate your claim

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have cited two most important criteria of the apostolic Church. Which Protestant churches perform them?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the apostolic Church
            As defined by Catholics and Orthodox. Apostolic succession is a meme and doesn't actually check heresy.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Lutherans and the Anglicans do, and they're le original Protestant

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Anglicans
            They are pro-lgbt now

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah because apostolic succession is a meme

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Take the waldensians
          They have no theological differences from Catholics. If they recognize the primacy of the pope, they are Catholics, if not, then Orthodox

          • 6 months ago
            Dirk

            I thought you studied church history

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So they are the orthodox

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What am I wrong about and why?
    You're 100% correct, but I'll qdd that Protestants believe that the Bible is an infallible dociment that somehow allows them to reverse engineer ancient writings to deduce the blueprint for how to create a church, rather than the much more obvious option of the bible being descriptive of an already-existing non-invisible historical Church.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you Chinese or something? I feel like I’m on the receiving end of “white archeologists discovers thing after 15 years when he could have asked the locals and figured it out in 5 minutes”

    I feel like you’d have to he from outside of the West or Christendom to not kinda inherently view Christianity this way if you’re trying to he unbiased.

    You’re not wrong about anything except that while Orthodox are Christian, they do not have everything correct which needs to be and are therefore not part of the Church but in schism. The church in Rome is that which is to be submitted to. It is the one universal church and Rome is the rock upon which its built. Submit to Christ, not to Rome. As the Orthodox themselves love to say. Rather, submit to Christ through Rome. Once they hear that they usually don’t like it, lol.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Orthodoxy and Catholicism are two branches of the same church, which are subordinate to different patriarchs
    Correct.

    >Protestantism is not a Christian church at all in its original meaning, just a Bible study club.
    Funny, also kind of correct because they are still Christian. They are just limited in their faith, and they had one or two points worthy of consideration at some time of history.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of those groups branched off from the early church by the time of Constantine if not earlier. They invented things like infant baptism which the primitive church still doesn't do.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actually Catholics do still perform infant baptism. It's the newer churches that don't.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Church just means everyone who believes.
    The Church in Laodicia for example means every Laodician believer

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paul said in 1 Corinthians 12:27, "Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular."

      So he wasn't including himself in that statement. He said "ye are the body of Christ," not "we are the body of Christ." The church of Corinth itself was the body of Christ on its own, without having to include Paul, according to the Bible.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Church just means everyone who believes.
      Not really

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >church is just a social construct
      Yeah, no. You will never be a real christian. You have no saints, you have no sacraments, you have no magisterium. You are a heretic twisted by the five solas into a crude mockery of God's perfection.

      All the "faith" you have is two-faced and half hearted. Behind your back angels mock you. God is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “pastors” laugh at your sinful appearance behind closed doors.

      Sheep are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of wisdom have allowed sheep to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even protestants who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a sheep. Your strip mall church is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a lost sheep to join you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your rotten fruits produced by your bad tree.

      You will never be saved. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself that you have faith, but deep inside you feel the temptation creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

      Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll become wicked, thinking Jesus will forgive you anyway, and plunge into the lake of fire. Your guardian angel will find you, heartbroken but relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you without proper funeral rites, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know an anathema is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a soul that is unmistakably damned.

      This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is still time to turn back.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        If I see you in heaven I'm smacking the shit out of you

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I will pray for your early release from purgatory.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Church just means everyone who believes.
      Believes what though, moron? I am in no way affiliated with the beliefs of a JW, for example. You need an ACTUAL infallible institution to protect the apostolic deposit of faith.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Protestantism isn't a church because it's a much broader term and encompasses a ton of different churches with different beliefs lumped together for not adhering to catholic/orthodox patriarchs.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a ton of different churches
      None of them are the christian church in its original meaning

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