How do Muslims know that Allah is not just a Jinn?

Any religion is based on the words of a guy who met a guy who had a supernatural encounter. How do you know that entity was benevolent? The Quran has a lot of very specific entries about slavery, rape and genocide, it should make you wonder if maybe you were tricked by a Djinn who is enjoying all the blood spilled in his name.

Would you still want to be Muslim?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zero percent of these women are actual muslims

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it Muhammad.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    islam is the fakest gayest shit ive ever read in my life. its worse than scientology. at least l ron hubbard was a novelist not a warlord pedophile.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what happens when you learn about Islam with the explicit purpose of deboonking it. You become a shill.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Isra and Miraj was a spiritual journey. A hadith of Aisha(R) says that, "He was transported only in his spirit (bi-ruhihi), while his body did not leave its place." The literal interpretation only came about due to the intense faith of the Companions in the Prophet(S).
          >The most convincing argument in favour of a spiritual interpretation of both the Night Journey and the Ascension is forthcoming from the highly allegorical descriptions found in the authentic Traditions relating to this double experience: descriptions, that is, which are so obviously symbolic that they preclude any possibility of interpreting them literally, in "physical" terms. Thus, for instance, the Apostle of God speaks of his encountering at Jerusalem, and subsequently in heaven, a number of the earlier prophets, all of whom had undoubtedly passed away a long time before. According to one Tradition (quoted by Ibn Kathir on the authority of Anas), he visited Moses in his grave, and found him praying. In another Tradition, also on the authority of Anas (cf. Fath al-Bari VII, 158), the Prophet describes how, on his Night Journey, he encountered an old woman, and was thereupon told by Gabriel, "This old woman is the mortal world (ad-dunya)". In the words of yet another Tradition, on the authority of Abu Hurayrah (ibid.), the Prophet "passed by people who were sowing and harvesting; and every time they completed their harvest, [the grain) grew up again. Gabriel said, 'These are the fighters in God's cause (al-mujahidun).' Then they passed by people whose heads were being shattered by rocks; and every time they were shattered, they became whole again. [Gabriel] said, 'These are they whose heads were oblivious of prayer.... Then they passed by people who were eating raw, rotten meat and throwing away cooked, wholesome meat. [Gabriel] said, 'These are the adulterers.'"

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it literally came to me in a dream
            kek

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can interpret it however you want. The spiritual lesson remains the same, that of Islam being the eternal tradition of submission to God, the religion of Adam(PBUH), the primordial man present within all of us who submitted only to God. To be a Muslim is in our innermost nature. To be a Muslim, you have to polish your heart and become who you always were, who you always wanted to be, i.e. someone in complete surrender to God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah yeah you worship a book filled with israeli fairytales, understood subhuman. Now go fetch my oil

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe shitskin, you are just another flavor of israelite in need of removal.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah Almighty said: The son of Adam abuses me. He curses time and I am time, for in my hand are the night and day.”

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you are saying Allah is mad at humanity and you should destroy the unbelievers who have forsaken Allah?

      So is Islam a curse on humanity?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not at all. "Time" here would be better translated as "vicissitudes of time". A primary article of faith in Islam is the acceptance of divine predestination. Meaning that God draws us closer to Him with a series of tests of increasing difficulty .
        >Allah does not require of any soul more than what it can afford. All good will be for its own benefit, and all evil will be to its own loss.*
        *Good and evil are defined as closeness to God and distance from God respectively. With enough distance, God seals our hearts permanently to make us an example for the rest of mankind.
        As Muslims, we welcome these tests and welcome adversity, as they are an inevitable aspect of self-purification and alignment with God.
        >Do people think once they say, “We believe,” that they will be left without being put to the test?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek not even denying that it's am anti white brainwashing tool.
      >hate Adam the white man
      >Allah is the greatest of deceivers

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unharmed, alive, able to talk and write, learned something = benevolent

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Second from the right

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      man hands

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not all Djinn are evil as per the Quran. In fact, they live in a parallel dimension and have free will, religions, good and evil etc.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do Christians know that Jesus is not just a Demon?
    >Any religion is based on the words of a guy who met a guy who had a supernatural encounter. How do you know that entity was benevolent? The Bible has a lot of very specific entries about slavery, rape and genocide, it should make you wonder if maybe you were tricked by a Demon who is enjoying all the blood spilled in his name.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Bible has a lot of very specific entries about slavery, rape and genocide
      The old testamente ? yes; the new ? no; but nice try; sandBlack person; the old testament is used by christians as prophecies for the new one; still; slavery; rape and genocide is a thing not recommended; incentivated or supported by even the midievalists christians compared to the mudslimes.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Especially this kind of practice become almost inexistent in christians countries compared to pagan ones; see scandinavia for example where the people become so poor because everyone is a free peasant and no slavery or forced work because christianity did this.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          So; where in a muslim country (who is not secular) you see this happening ? just give one example.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Enslaving free men and women is prohibited.
            >Allah will oppose a man who sells a free person and consumes the price.
            >Since when did you enslave the people though they were born from their mothers in freedom?
            For the topic of slavery in Islam, see

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Slaves in any civilization were war captives. Once assimilationist wars stopped, slavery also stopped. The only source of slaves thereafter became purchased slaves from Africa (who were war captives of African civilizations). Both for Muslims and for Christians.
          However, the difference is that we have specific guidelines against slavery. While Christianity has no such thing. It depends entirely on political circumstance.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            who is bilal and did your prophet ever free him?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Assuming we're talking about Bilal ibn Rabah(R), he was manumitted.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            this is your bilal begging for his freedom

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek, post the full hadith instead of a cherrypicked snippet

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's the full hadith, sweaty. are you new to Islam, or just dont know your religion?
            why dont you take the source I gave you and show us all from any site you choose...soind good?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek, post the full hadith,

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have the narrative messed up. This is from the time of his emancipation, right after these events happened.
            >When Bilal's slave master, Umayyah ibn Khalaf, found out, he began to torture Bilal.[7] At the instigation of Abu Jahl, Umayyah bound Bilal and had him dragged around Mecca as children mocked him.[11] Bilal refused to renounce Islam, instead repeating "ahad, ahad" ("one, one"), i.e., one God.[11][12] Incensed at Bilal's refusal, Umayyah ordered that Bilal be whipped and beaten while spread-eagled upon the Arabian sands under the desert sun, his limbs bound to stakes. When Bilal still refused to recant, Umayyah ordered that a hot boulder be placed on Bilal's chest.[7] However, Bilal remained firm in belief and continued to say "ahad, ahad".
            You should read a seerah to understand the whole narrative. I recommend Martin Lings.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, when he was so old that he had almost no more life left anyway lmao.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            son of an qurayshi pagan and enslaved ethiopian woman. He was freed by the prophet

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            You must mean false prophet since Christ deniers can't be real prophets.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            who said Islam deny Jesus Christ? did u get your "knowledge" from tiktok?

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            The Qur'an calls our LORD JESUS Christ a prophet by which denying the divinity of our LORD and they also deny our LORD'S sorrowful passion on the cross. Muslims are Satanists, all who are not in Christ JESUS are of the devil.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mooslems literally believe Jesus never died on the cross but instead swapped himself out with another person and escaped. Mooslems literally believe Jesus was a coward and a liar, and of course that He was not God manifest in the flesh.

            Mooslems believe Monty Python's Life of Brian is a more accurate telling of Jesus' life than the Bible.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            we believe God saved Jesus from the humiliation that is being crucified by the israelites and the Romans

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thus reducing Jesus to being both a coward and a liar, and only a man. So yes, you deny Him. Not only do you deny His divinity, but you even deny He has integrity.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus never claimed divinity

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes He did.

            He also prophesized His crucifixion. And thus Mooslems make Jesus into a false prophet, by definition.

            You are liars that don't even comprehend your own religious beliefs and what they entail.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It’s important to not that the Muslim god never claims to be YHWH. He is Al-llah, allah. When Muslims say they have one god it’s likely true but it’s not the one Abraham saw.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        1. We don't have rape, slavery, or genocide in the Qur'an.
        2. The God of the Old Testament is supposedly Jesus(PBUH).
        3. Christians don't resist the state and let them do whatever.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is how how know those shills have never read the holy quran.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >we dont have rape
          quran 4:24 (muta marriage during war. taken from the talmud story of david)
          >we dont have slavery
          bilal

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Concubinage isn't rape. It's marriage without the rights of inheritance, that can go above the limit of four wives. The intention is the integration of war widows into Muslim society (most of whom prefer concubinage to being a domestic servant).
            In most schools of fiqh, it even requires witnesses the same as marriage.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can't wait until Whites enslave muslim prostitutes and impregnate their concubines consentually

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            bring your birth rates up first

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's honestly better than leaving them to die on the streets. Remember, even with the lowest of slaves, we have to house and clothe them and educate them equally. And any concubine that is with child is freed after your death.
            Remember that captives weren't peasants - it's forbidden to fight against or enslave peasants - but the elite of society. Kings, generals, ministers, etc. Obviously, a dispossessed queen would prefer to be a concubine than be a domestic servant. They'd prefer it to sitting in their room whittling away their life.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            except those whom your right hands possess. kek this is not "concubannage"

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It literally is concubinage. Not all captives are concubines.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you have all of those things with instructions on how to do them
          >yes we know Muslims false claim Jesus just like they do every israeli holy site

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            We don't have instructions on any of them. You're comparing very different institutions which merely translate to the same word. The USSR, the USA, and Switzerland are all secular states. Does that mean they are all the same and operate in exactly the same way?
            Every civilization had the problem of war captives. Every civilization dealt with them in a different way. Islam is by far the most humane in dealing with them.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christians are still mutilating their little boys because the caananite volcano god said so. Abrahamic religions are all horseshit.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. That is why I do not believe in the words of man.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        ah so you instead believe in the words of God.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I know there is more to this world than we can see. However, I do not trust anybody has figured it out.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like there could be a logical argument for why any religion, dogma or belief system must be wrong, or not better than any other

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            I did the research for you. The seven Churches in Boyd of Christ who follow Christ JESUS alone are the one true faith of the GOD of hosts. All other religions are of the devil and a short study of the UN spiritual program of Luciferian unity reveals that they excluded Christianity alone and accepted all other faiths as they are. Further more. Abrahamic unity center in Saudi Arabia feature a synagogue with the star of molech and a mosque with the crescent and star of baal and a Church that is not allowed to feature a cross.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes, the Paul argument. you do know that the Paul argument has been taught by rabbis to their students for 1800yrs yes?
      and consider your logic...your mohammed met NOT ONE PERSON of who he spoke of. not one.
      arent you the saudi that I showed allah was a statue?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Paul never met Jesus. The paul argument is used for 2000 years because it works.
        >arent you the saudi that I showed allah was a statue?
        schizo

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          so you admit youre a talmudist? whatever works.
          so you admit that mohammed himself never met A SINGLE PERSON he spoke of? where as Paul was with the apostles after jesus.
          ibn Kathir confirms this (as he confirmed allah was nothing more than a statue)

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>how do Christians know that Jesus is not just a Demon?
      Jesus is considered a prophet by Islam, so that would invalidate Islam as well.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>how do Christians know that Jesus is not just a Demon?
      He refers to himself as "the morning star" in Revelations, so yeah he's equating himself with the devil

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Allah does not try to impress us with knowledge.
    The angels asked him, why did you create Adam when we worship you for eternity. He said that he knows what the angels don’t know.
    A Djinn however, has a huge mouth and really tries to convince you with his words, he will even do magic tricks to convince you.
    Allah orders and he gets obeyed not questioned, that is proof enough for me that Allah is god and god means alllah.
    Actually, we have nothing that we can say about Allah as all language is insufficient, not enough, does not touch the divine.
    And the divine is not personal, nameless, all powerful

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  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They don't

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Mohammed see a demon in the cave who trick him ? Islam get spread by the sword; pillage and rape in the beginning of it; where in the world the first christians begins with this ? lmao, so who is the demon here ?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Christianity spread within the Roman Empire. All the rape and pillage had been done beforehand.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know of the crimes done in the name of Christianity. I also know of the crimes done in the name of Islam. This does not help selling it to unbelievers.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Islam is pure monotheism, the only religion in the sight of God. There's no other argument required.
          As for crimes, Islam stands against injustice, while Christianity is at best indifferent.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Islam is Satanism and the Kaaba in Mecca is full of idols. Repent, heathen! Accept our LORD JESUS Christ into your heart today. The time is nigh.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >allah forgives sins
            >a stone forgives sins
            >Quran is uncreated
            >Muhammad will intercede for Muslims at judgement
            Seems like you have a few gods.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            jesus is lord
            but also pope forgives sins
            but also saints forgive sins
            but also mary forgives sins
            etc

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus gave his church the authority to forgive sins. When did allah give the stone the authority to forgive sins? When did allah tell Uthman to destroy Muhammad’s quaran and write his own?

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Never did. Our LORD liveth and you should follow Him alone.
            "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of My hand".
            - John chapter 10 verses 27-28.
            Knock and it will be opened.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Saying this to a Saxon American is pretty much like i'd accuse you for what the Sufi do which you consider apostasy.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Only God through Christ forgives sins. The Priests do it in the name of Jesus. The Saints intercede for us with the Lord.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            See the problem is you think not letting Muslims murder whoever they want with zero resistance is “injustice”

            And this is the part you tell me you’re a peaceful mudslide who will kill me for bad mouthing your religion cause all acts of Muslim violence are excusable

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            When did I say any of this?

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Your religion pretty much teaches exactly that. We just saw you guys butchering innocent civilians and then turn around and cry bloody murder when you were countered and are being displaced. You guys are murders and liars, like Cain who slew his brother and then lied to GOD when asked for his brother's whereabouts.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most terrorists use a simple argument. "They killed our children, so we will kill theirs until they stop." I don't agree with that argument, but the kuffar do continue to kill our children. And they are fine with a "disproportionate response".
            We do not believe in such things. We believe in minimal effective responses. And if you ever get in trouble, as long as you're a civilian, even if you're being attacked by a Muslim, I would die protecting you and protecting your rights.
            And that is my duty as a Muslim. As the Qur'an says,
            >And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allāh and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper"?

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Islam was founded by Talmudic pharisees and is a religion designed for genocide. Once you guys tip the demographic scale your imams start preaching for blood. Islam is pretty much a bio weapon. I read your book and i know the nature of your religion. Your faith allows you to lie to me, how can there ever be trust between Christians and heathen? What communion could there be between the light and the darkness?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This Muslims. The Quran says to subdue Christians and israelites and force Islam or death on them. The real God, not the demon allah, gave us free will. allah demands submission. Very different God than the one in Genesis and revealed to Abraham.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The non-Muslims that are to be subdued are the ones that constantly wage war on us. Muslims are a free people who love freedom, while Christianity and Judaism are both top-down religions. Christian and israeli leaders have always seen Islam - simple submission to God - as a threat to their convoluted and distorted doctrines, and thus have always sought to wage war on us.
            You can even see this in online discourse: Christians lash out at Muslims not to seek to guide us to Christianity, but to keep Christians from becoming Muslim, to ensure that Christians don't learn about Islam.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The non-Muslims that are to be subdued are the ones that constantly wage war on us

            lmao you have been waging war against everyone that touches you for 1400 years mudslim.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            When we win a war, we leave the laws and traditions of the conquered people untouched. You have your own courts and can maintain your own communities. No one is forced to become Muslim. No one is even encouraged to become Muslim. Islam is submission to God. Submission to God cannot be forced.
            >There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become distinct from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in ṭāghūt and believes in Allāh has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing.
            Meanwhile, wherever Christians or liberals (the descendants of Christians) have conquered territory, they've attempted to forcefully impose their ways on everyone, sparing no one.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there shall be no compulsion in religion
            do you converts just make shit up as you go, or do you get it from youtube? be honest.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Any territory where Muslims are free to practice our religion, or with whom we have treaty relations, is considered Dar al-Islam. The purpose of jihad is raising the word of God. That isn't necessary with peaceful states.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            show me a source. know where in Islam does it even remotely say what you're saying. nowhere.
            do you converts just make shit up that feels good to you, honestly?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dar al-'Ahd (Arabic: دار العهد "house of truce") or dar al-Sulh (Arabic: دار الصلح "house of conciliation/treaty") were terms used for territories that have a treaty of non-aggression or peace with Muslims.[16] Such a division was recognized by Shafi'i jurists.[17] But Hanafi jurists argued that if a territory concluded a peace treaty with dar al-Islam, dar al-Islam was obligated to protect this territory and its people, hence the territory effectively became dar al-Islam.[17] Thus, Hanafis did not recognize this division.[17]

            This designation can be found in the Quran, where Muslims are directed on how they should act in war:

            Excepting those who join a people between whom and you there is a treaty, or such as come to you with hearts reluctant to fight you, or to fight their own people. Had Allah wished, He would have imposed them upon you, and then they would have surely fought you. So if they keep out of your way and do not fight you, and offer you peace, then Allah does not allow you any course [of action] against them.

            —Quran 4:90

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            HOLY SHIT YOU REALLY DID JUST SHOW ME A WIKI ARTICLE?!

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            What do you expect? The only Non-Normie faith is in our LORD JESUS Christ. The heathen can't truth, son.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >When we win a war, we leave the laws and traditions of the conquered people untouched.
            >You have your own courts and can maintain your own communities.
            The audacity of this b***h thinking we don't know what sharia law is (muslim fascisms).
            >Islam is submission to God.
            Islam is submission of reason.
            >No one is forced to become Muslim. No one is even encouraged to become Muslim.
            Nah just pay a tax and your children are not yours and be humiliated daily
            >There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion.

            Abrogated by later verses

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You literally are Serbian. Speaking Serbian, being a Serbian Orthodox Christian, having Serbian traditions, even after 500 years of Ottoman rule. How can you possibly say we are genocidal or fascistic?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You literally are Serbian

            Yes. And I know EXACTLY what you are. Convert or die mudslim you cant survive the internet

            >Speaking Serbian, being a Serbian Orthodox Christian, having Serbian traditions, even after 500 years of Ottoman rule.

            Yes cause Hungarians allowed us to settle the border between them and you acting like a living shield. The entire area is called "war country" today as a county. You can go to Serbia now and draw a line between Ottoman rule and the fricking Austrians and it's night and day difference. We fought hard to get rid of the Ottomans. They were vile.

            > How can you possibly say we are genocidal or fascistic?

            Cause I have eyes and ears and see whats going on in every part of the world that borders muslim lands.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't particularly know about the efficiency of Ottoman administrations. They had tendencies toward centralization that were un-Islamic. But it's clear that you weren't forced to be anything. Nor were any other people under Ottoman administration. Any ethnic cleansing in Anatolia happened only under secular nationalist rule. However, plenty of ethnic cleansing and forced conversion happened in Christian lands.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are a Christian unitarian sect that mutated when hadiths were introduced by people living in areas where Zoroasters used to inhabit. And hadits are saying of the prophet written 250+ years after his death. So is his Sira. Your entire history is a lie. Turn back from the dark path and come back to Christ

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure. Tell me why monotheism is wrong.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Sure. Tell me why monotheism is wrong.

            Because it makes zero sense. Allah is the owner and master of everyting. 99 names of Allah are his attributes. One of his names is Al-Waarith which means the inheritor.

            How can he inherit something that he already owns?

            Also you don't have monotheism you have 2 eternal uncreated things. Quran and Allah. That's not one.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Al-Waarith is referring to the idea that everything will return to God.
            https://myislam.org/99-names-of-allah/al-warith/
            God is also al-Mubdi - the Originator. What we say when someone dies is, "We come from God and we return to God."
            Thus, names of God are not to be taken in isolation. Nor are the names of God exhausted by what we know of His names. We are not to ascribe modality to God (bi la kayf).
            Similarly, the Qur'an is uncreated in the sense of being the Speech of God, which implies that the truth of the Qur'an will hold true throughout time. The speech of God is not prior to God or coexistent alongside God, but existed as part of His essence - before being exercised in this phase of creation. Similar to how you retain the ability to speak even when you remain silent.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Al-Waarith is referring to the idea that everything will return to God.

            Bro. Let me make it crystal clear.

            I am the owner of a laptop.
            I give laptop to you for you to use it.
            You die.
            I get my laptop back.

            I did not inherit my laptop. In no way shape or form is that INHERIT.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can honestly say, in all my years of doing this, that these are some of the dumbest fricking islam-converts I've ever come across.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            dude like 80% of names of Allah which are his attribute are like this. They all demand an object.

            >coming to /misc/ to spread islam

            lmao

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It returned to you. How did you not inherit it? If you want even more precision, it's referring to the attributes of God returning to His transcendent essence.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because INHERIT

            inherit
            /JnˈhɛrJt/
            verb

            receive (something) as an heir at the death of the PREVIOUS owner.

            Since Allah is already the owner of everything he can't INHERIT your dense frick. You don't get to arbitrarily change the definition of the word to suit your needs. This is not Arabic

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            But al-waarith is Arabic. In this context, all it means is that it returns to its source.
            You can see this problem in many translated words. "Slave of God" really means someone who has made a pact with God. Iman doesn't mean "faith" but knowledgeable trust in God. Ar-Rahman doesn't mean compassionate, but refers instead to the all-pervading mercy through which even a disbeliever can return to God. Ar-Rahim doesn't mean merciful but refers instead to the specific mercy a person receives when he submits entirely to God as a Muslim. And so on.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao what a clown

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          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The speech of God is not prior to God or coexistent alongside God, but existed as part of His essence - before being exercised in this phase of creation. Similar to how you retain the ability to speak even when you remain silent.

            > before being exercised in this phase of creation.
            > before being exercised

            So there was a time where there was no Quran then? Yet your teachings clearly state it's eternal and is existing in tablet form in heaven. Quran is clearly not Allah. You cant say it's him. Yet its clearly separate from him in form. You have two.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Speech of God is uncreated as it exists prior to being spoken. In more direct terms, it means that there is only one truth and the truth can only be one way. Thus, there can be no alternate Qur'an, no alternate speech of God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dan Gibson has a pretty compelling documentary on YouTube that the original mecca was Petra and not the Mecca they have today. All early kibla walls point to Petra. Those in the Middle East and as far as China. Not a single kibla points to modern Mecca for hundreds of years after Muhammad supposedly lived.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >plenty of ethnic cleansing and forced conversion happened in Christian lands.

            This is a sore subject for Christians, they only bring up the Crusades when they’re trying to pretend it’s a masculine religion that has historical precedent for enforcers but when you remind them of their Christ, then they are suddenly innocent lambs again.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Muslim conquests and brutality are well known. Even the buddhist's expelled you from Myanmar

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Buddhists can't be violent.
            If anything, Buddhists are exceptionally violent.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Buddhists are exceptionally violent

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are multiple civil wars going on right now in Myanmar.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            They are, I remember going to a wat where a monk from Burma used to preside. He wouldn’t allow strangers onto his premises unless they were vetted by a local because he was afraid of getting robbed or attacked like he used to in Burma.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >However, plenty of ethnic cleansing and forced conversion happened in Christian lands.

            Rubbish argument. That's the states doing and institutions. Lets look at the first 300 years of each religion.

            Christianity
            >spread exclusively by word
            Islam
            >spread exclusively by sword

            Don't ever mention christian forced conversions those are institutions of states doing state things.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's what I mentioned earlier. Christians meekly submit to corrupt states. You render unto Caesar and submit to him. We see Caesar as a corrupt polytheist and submit only to God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You didn’t even address your point, liar. You asked me about America in Iraq when I proved you wrong. Another 50 licks to your stone for forgiveness

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We see Caesar as a corrupt polytheist and submit only to God.

            Don't kid yourself mudslim your SUBMIT to the whims of your clergy you are nothing but a theocracy. A system of governance more than a religion.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            We don't even have a clergy. We have scholars, imams, jurists, and professors. All of them together form what we call the ulema. This is completely decentralized and entirely meritocratic.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            All of those are not needed. Salvation is in Christ alone.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Christ asked you to serve God, the father.
            He never asked you once to worship him.
            You are further from his message than the pharisees

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            I pray to my Father in JESUS name, never the less salvation is in Christ alone.
            >You are further from his message than the pharisees
            You're playing with fire, heathen.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am not. Jesus asked you repeatedly to pray and serve the father and that he did not come to be served yet all i see is christians deifying and worshiping Jesus and forgetting and the Most high. In that sense, you are further from God than a Pharisee.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This homosexual sees his demonic religion getting btfo and then he comes in and poisons the well by aging Jesus isn’t God. Muhammad is in hell and Jesus is in heaven. Islam teaches this as well. Deal with it

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            so accordimg to you, some dude named Jesus (no such thing in islam, it's ISA) will come back and save you?
            Allah cant come save you himself?
            what, will allah be too busy the day of qiyama?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're deflecting from a talking point that you can't defend and that uses your bible to bring down your cult

            This homosexual sees his demonic religion getting btfo and then he comes in and poisons the well by aging Jesus isn’t God. Muhammad is in hell and Jesus is in heaven. Islam teaches this as well. Deal with it

            You too are deflecting and you're not so different from the israelite who says that Jesus is boiling in excrement in Hell. Even if i were to convert, if i were to apply your Bible as is, my religion would be completely different from that of the majority of christians. The israelites are right on one thing, and it's that you're idol worshippers and i mean it in the same way that Protestants accuse Catholics of being idol worshippers.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            so you admit that "just some dude named isa" is coming back to save you...yes or no?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I say that what you are doing is the literal opposite of what Jesus asked from you in the Bible and that he would condemn you if he had to see your cult today.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            answer the question.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I will, when you answer the one i asked first. If you stop deflecting, i will stop insisting and repeating myself.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm still waiting...youre waiting for "just some guy" to come and save you? once you answer that, you'll get your answer to the question you asked me. it's very simple.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Nothing escapes the site of our LORD, what you do in the darkness will be dragged into the light. There's nothing hidden in this world and all your words are measure, you will account for all of them.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you actually read the quran you’d discover just how much alike muslims are to devout Christians that fear God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            do you guys just make shit up as you go?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            READ THE QURAN, not just snippets, the whole Quran!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            already did. It would seem that you didn't. And are you saying that Allah changed his mind later in the Qur'an? did you really just say that?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >are you saying that Allah changed his mind later in the Qur'an

            In regards to what? You’re mincing words. What I’m saying is that the Christian Church today as it stands does not even represent the original spirit that Christ conveyed to his apostles. In this respect Islam does a better job at honoring the teachings of Christ than Christians do.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The creeds and codes espoused by the Catholic and Orthodox Church today are the same as those in the 1st century ad. We can look at what Luke wrote in acts and see that the early Christians believed and taught what are taught today. Meanwhile Uthman wrote the Quran 300 years after Muhammad supposedly died.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Uthman(R) wrote the Qur'an 300 years after the death of the Prophet(S).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Uthman destroyed all other Qurans and wrote his own
            >abu bakar rejected it as it was not what he learned from Muhammad
            >Muhammad said to learn the quaran from men, bakar being one
            >Muslims use Uthman quaran
            Haha.hahaha. Your scripture is written by a random warlord and not even your prophet.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Qur'an is oral literature. It can't be physically destroyed.
            Every verse in the Qur'an relates to some incident or another in the life of the Prophet(S).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You still didn’t even address why bakar denounced uthmans compilation. Muhammad said learn from bakar. Bakar rejected what Uthman wrote. Why do you use something your prophet did not teach?

            don't forget...the first "working" quran wasnt compiled til 1924 at al-Azhar university in Cairo Egypt (Hafs Edition, which is just a RECITATION from Asim).
            kek

            It only gets worse for them lol

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Abu Bakr(R) died before Uthman(R).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. He was older and died before Uthman but they coexisted and bakar rejected the Quran Uthman wrote. Why do you use Uthman book and not bakars?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's rehashed christian and israeli stories that the quraishi even heard before.
            all thru the quran, the quraish (HIS OWN FAMILY) told him "we've heard all these stories before, these are nothing but fairytales of the ancients".
            >search "legends" and "fairytales of the ancients" in the quran
            the quraish were obviously smart people.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            We care nothing for israelites and Christians. israelites and Christians are mentioned as examples of what not to be. They are mentioned so we don't repeat their mistakes. Pagans are mentioned just as much and for the same reason.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            your Allah does tho. the israelites,according to him, are his favorite.
            every story in the quran are retold stories looking before mohammed invented Islam.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Qur'an is oral literature. It can't be physically destroyed.

            https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4987

            >two groups wanted to kill each other over wrong recitation
            >they were taught by the literal followers who knew Muhammad

            so much for that one lmao

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is an additional precaution. Any hafidh still receives the Qur'an with a chain of transmission.
            >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijazah#Example_of_a_Quran_Ijazah

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            don't forget...the first "working" quran wasnt compiled til 1924 at al-Azhar university in Cairo Egypt (Hafs Edition, which is just a RECITATION from Asim).
            kek

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you said rad the whole Qur'an, yes? meaning, that I supposed to wait for Allah to change his mind in later verses.
            basically what you are saying is "keep reading bro, it gets better".
            no. It doesn't get better. the Qur'an, hadith, and tafsir are very clear that you are supposed to fight and humiliate the Christians til the last day.
            read The Pact of Umar to see how much fun your calipha had humiliating Christians.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            1. They operate on fear. Their women fear death and thus are modest, their men fear death and thus are pious but you will find that fear of society is not fear of GOD and fear of society generates what seems like but no what is genuine.
            2. My Father is not their father nor is their father my Father.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The whole “Isa” quandary is a non-issue. This is the arabic variation of yeshua. Why do you intentionally bring up petty non-issues with the intent of over exaggerating their significance?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            no. the arabic name for Jesus is Yas'oo al-Massih and always has been until your prophet. NO ARAB CHRISTIAN IN THE WORLD knows who this isa guy is.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >idol worshippers?
            ever googled "Ya-Sin"?
            picrel is your "Ya-sin"

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            Praying to GOD in JESUS name, learning from the Holy Ghost and obeying LOGOS is the worship of GOD which you know not, heathen. However, salvation in Christ alone. Nothing but the blood of the Lamb who is worthy will save you. That's the reason Christ JESUS gave His life for us on the cross. Lastly.
            "Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake".
            - John chapter 14 verse 11.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake".
            And this, precisely, is what i noticed in every christian. You put heavy interpretation on the cryptic verses like this one where it is said that the father is in me and i am in the father and you allow yourself to extrapolate on it when simple and clear verses in this same book completely oppose the conclusions you derive from these interpretations.

            >‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28)
            Yet you serve him instead of serving the God he came to praise and who he asked you to worship. Jesus never asked anyone to worship him

            >‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’ (Matthew 26:39)
            and you mock us when we do the same

            >‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2)
            where are your prayers to the father? i only see christians praying to jesus

            >‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)
            as it is written, "his servant", get it right

            >‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
            >‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)
            not A MAN

            >‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)
            why do you ignore crystal clear verses like this one? he is a man accredited by god and nothing more. And the miracles he does are not of his own doing but performed by god who acts through him

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            god is not a man...WHO LIES.
            kek

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And this, precisely, is what i noticed in every christian. You put heavy interpretation on the cryptic verses like this one

            And this, precisely, is what i noticed in every muslim. You twist words and butcher bible verses while crying in pain when someone takes something out of context in quran.

            god is not a man...WHO LIES.
            kek

            They cant help themselves the butchers

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright. I will take your word for it and challenge you to show me what i twisted in the following verses. Take your time to answer.

            >‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2)
            What is there to twist here? You are asked to pray the father and there is no other verse when Jesus asks you to direct your prayers to him

            >‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28)
            This verse is literal and open to no interpretation. The son of man did not come to be served but to serve. Explain what i twisted here.

            >‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)
            Doesn't this verse highlight a relationship between a God and his Servant?

            >‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)
            Doesn't this verse create a clear distinction between God and Jesus who is qualified as a man, sent by a distinct entity called God who is capable of doing no miracle on his own? Tell me, what did i twist here?

            >‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
            >‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)
            Do i twist the meaning of the verse when i say that God is not a man?

            Really. I'm open to hear your feedback on how i twisted the meaning of these verses when you're taking the most cryptic ones and extrapolating on them and ignoring the literal ones that are devoid of interpretations.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What is there to twist here?

            The twist is that you are isolating verses and basing your entire argument on those segments instead of looking at the bible as a whole. If I did that with quran you would cry out in pain.

            Take your butchering to youtube comments where it belongs. You cant even prove the credibility of your own Quran and Hadiths and you want to talk about verses? Which quran are you reading?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The twist is that you are isolating verses and basing your entire argument on those segments instead of looking at the bible as a whole.

            Christians do this with the qur’an all the time ITT. No one tried to discuss this with any charity.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you do that on the Quran when it comes to a verse that is taken out of context, i would quote the verses that precede and the ones that follow it in order to show that the verse was corrupted because it was taken out of context.

            You're claiming something without showing anything to back that up, it's called deflecting. Show me what verse did i take out of context and how the meaning of said verse changes when taken in context. I'm only asking you to back your accusations with the Bible anon and i'm being genuine and not nearly as agressive or insulting as you are.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >, i would quote the verses that precede and the ones that follow it in order to show that the verse was corrupted because it was taken out of context.

            4:24

            And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess.

            allowed rape

            explain this one

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is nothing that i can say.
            The meaning of the verse is clear.
            "ma malakat aymanukum" means "what your hands possess" or in other words "your slaves / servants".

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            And those you capture

            how bout 65:4

            As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, and those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.

            minors allowed /b/ would love you guys

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            We don't need judges or professors or officials? Since when is Christianity against having a judiciary or an education or a government?

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            >judges or professors or officials
            Those are not what you described. You described salvation by the works of man and that is haram. Salvation is in Christ alone.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Faith manifests itself in actions. The kuffar work for this world and their reward is in this world. Muslims act only for God, and our reward is from God.
            >Then We will turn to whatever ˹good˺ deeds they did, reducing them to scattered dust.
            So yeah, without faith in God, whatever you say or do or think is worthless.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            can you translate this for me? I told you I can't into Arabic.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We have scholars, imams, jurists, and professors. All of them together form what we call the ulema.

            like I said clergy

            > This is completely decentralized and entirely meritocratic.

            so you say lmao

            What you have now is basically what pharisees did in time of Christ

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What does this even mean? Are you against the idea of experts in general? We have no institutionalized clergy like Christianity or Judaism is what I'm saying.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What does this even mean?

            it means you're a legalistic "religion" that doesn't even classify itself as one. You are bound by strict rules set by men not God. Our covenant is written on our hearths. We have a relationship with god while you have slave relation with something that is definitely not the same God mentioned in the bible.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >can’t rely on the Torah and need the talmud
            >can’t rely on the Quran and need the Hadith
            At least the israelites don’t disown the talmud when they can be proven Wrong.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            When did we ever disown the ahadith? The Qur'an is not meant to be complete in itself. The Qur'an emerges from "no god but God", the Sunnah emerges from the Qur'an, jurisprudence is built upon both the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You grade hadiths and discard them when they are no longer en vogue. There are Muslims who lived by hadiths that are no longer valid today. The Muslims who live today live under Hadiths that will not be valid in the future. Islam is a mess and no one can guarantee that what they believe today won’t be discarded tomorrow

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is not at all true. Islamic law at all times and places is based on both the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >based on the sunnah
            Muhammad worshiped and kissed a pagan god idol (the black stone). Because of sunnah you do too. Why did your prophet commit idolatry and why do you do it today?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Relics and symbolism are fine as long as they do not depart from monotheism. The Black Stone symbolizes the sins of mankind. Kissing the stone is an oath to redeem the sins of mankind with our adherence to Islam, through struggle in the path of God. When kissing the Black Stone, we say.
            >O Allah, out of faith in You, and in belief in Your Book and the Sunnah of Your Prophet Muhammad blessings and peace of Allah be upon him.
            The Black Stone represents man, fallen from the Heavens, blackened by sin, returned to God, redeemed by love. It quite literally is an Adamic stone, as it was the first altar used by the primordial man, representing the primordial nature of devotion to God being manifested in earthly sacrifice.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Except you preform the same idol worship the pagans did. Why do you worship an idol, other than sunnah.

            >Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, ‘By Allah! I know that you are a stone AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT NOR HARM. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.’ Then he kissed it and said, ‘There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.’ ‘Umar added, ‘(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal)

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            An idol is something that dilutes the sovereignty of God. The Black Stone in no way dilutes the sovereignty of God. It literally is just a relic.
            I already explained the meaning behind kissing the Black Stone. In essence, it represents the heart of mankind corrupted by the world. To kiss it is merely to take an oath of redemption.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The black stone is a pagan god. Arab gods are geometric shapes not human or animal like western pagan. You are kissing and taking oaths to a pagan god. Why?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Arabs are Ishmaelites and were originally monotheists. The Kaabah is the first mosque and the Black Stone is the original altar. Arabs gradually added pagan idols around the Kaabah to attract pilgrims. israelites stopped visiting the Kaabah around this time. These idols were destroyed by the Prophet(S), leaving only what was original to the Kaabah.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why won’t you answer the question? You pray daily to a pagan god, you kiss it and take oaths to it. Why do you worship a pagan god other than sunnah? Why did your prophet instruct you to worship a god other than allah?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            We don't worship any pagan god. We worship musabbib al-asbab - the Cause of All Causes. That which fully explains reality, i.e. God and only God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The black stone is a pagan god so you do. It would be like Catholics praying to a statue of Zeus and saying if you kiss this literal representation of a god your sins are forgiven. Do you not know your religion?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's an altar, not a god. It was never a god.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Will the stone come alive on the last day?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even the Qur'an will. It refers to the idea that all you act upon will bear witness for you or against you.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Will it talk to you?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is a meaningless question. Everything will testify for us or against us on the Day of Judgment. No act or word or thought of ours will be left unaccounted for.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            answer the question. Will the black stone talk to you and look at you? Simple question.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lots of inanimate objects will. Anything at all you come into contact with will. Even your own body - your own skin - will testify against you.
            >They will ask their skin ˹furiously˺, “Why have you testified against us?” It will say, “We have been made to speak by Allah, Who causes all things to speak. He ˹is the One Who˺ created you the first time, and to Him you were bound to return.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who will judge allah, the greatest deceiver for it's sins?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's "best of planners", referring to the idea that those who plot against God will be drawn away from God, and have their hearts sealed against God. Meaning those who plot against God are ultimately dooming themselves to alienation from God both in this life and the next.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            planner is "makar" in Arabic?!? Since when??

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That thing isn't god. It's an evil spirit who draws power from worship and sacrifices. It happens to be powerful now, but it won't last. They never last.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And whoever strives ˹in Allah’s cause˺, only does so for their own good. Surely Allah is not in need of ˹any of˺ His creation.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's "best of planners"

            No it isn't the root of the word is maka

            al "ماكر" "maakir"
            root m-k-r م-ك-ر
            word Makr "مكر" meaning deception

            Greatest of all DECIEVERS

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            KEK DOES HE MEAN "MUKHUTATEEN" ?!?
            morons, I swear.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            A serie of Hadiths claim that it will be destroyed but they might be fake hadiths, most of them are considered fabricated after all.
            Otherwise nothing significant relating to the stone except that it is believed that it was a house of worship for God built by Abraham and his son Ishmael after the exile of Hagar that was later corrupted into a market and a house of idols by the arabs.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you don’t know about Islam
            >well some Hadiths are fake hadiths
            Literally what I said. Your fake religion will damn you. Repent.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hadiths are the equivalent of oral tradition of hebrew. Just like the hebraic oral tradition that was corrupted (talmud), ours was too, and it was manipulated by ruling powers.

            We still refer to the Quran as a universal corpus and you can use it against me or any muslim if you wish. No one will ever deny anything from it. Go on.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bakar rejected the Quran Uthman wrote. You should too

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again, if you dig deeper than the words of your pastors and have a simple google search about the Ahruf and the Qur'an of Uthman, you wouldn't be posting this argument here.

            The ahrufs in Qur'an were not versions but different punctuations and ways to pronunciate it that made it easier for different dialects to speak it with their tongue. None of these versions were different semantically even in the scope of a single word from one another.

            Uthman took a decision that disregarded the Sunnah and this is what Abu Bakr opposed. The decision was to get rid of all the different punctuation versions to unify the corpus and Abu Bakr considered this as a diverting from the commandment of the prophet.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            it could not have been corrupted because it was memorized and there was no coordination between ruling powers, you sound like a kaffir to me

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            the stone was already destroyed by the kharmations, and Mohammed had to pay to get it back.
            the kaaba itself has been destroyed 3 times already. al-aqsa, 11 times.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            And they will be destroyed for the final time. No light it darkness last forever.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it’s not idol worship it’s an oath
            >it’s not a god it’s worship at an altar
            Lol ok kid. Like I said, repent and turn to God or you will be in hell with Muhammad.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have no understanding of our religion just as you have no understanding of the israeli religion or any real monotheism due to the way you distorded yours.

            Here's a tldr although i believe it's a waste of time to talk to you:

            Because Muslims share something with israelites and Zoroastrians that was removed from Christianity and is why israelites will call a Christian an Idolater while at the same time referring to a Muslim as someone who believes in God (implying it is the same God) even though they deny Muhammad as a prophet.

            What is completely alien to the modern Christian belief that needs to put proper names and affiliation upon the subject of worship is that at their root, abrahamic monotheistic religions imply the belief in one creator who is unseen and who will judge humanity. Whoever that creator is, that is the entity refered to as Allah by Muslims and Hashem or El by israelites. The eternal source of life from which everything comes and to which everything returns.

            Whoever that is, he is the subject of the beliefs of the monotheists. That is why all names of God in monotheism are adjectives describing one of his qualities.

            Adonai means my Lord
            El Shaddai means the Strong, the Mighty

            Allah means "the one and only God"
            Al Rahman means "the Merciful"
            Al Quddus means "the most holy"

            Understanding the creator in monotheistic religions is done by reflecting on his creation and seeking wisdom on the signs that surround one in his daily life and none of this would achieve any substantial understanding of the divine which is said to only be fully grasped on the day of the judgement.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            no. your mohammed just finally "found the best stone, and kept it. you still perform tawaf around "the best stone".

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can put it another way anon. The Kaaba is to the arabs what the Wall of Lamentations is to the israelites (if the wall of lamentations was actually the entire Temple of Solomon) and what the True Cross of the Christ is to christians.

            It's sacred and both other religions have sacred artifacts or temples. Sacred does not mean deified or worshipped.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            But it isn't only for Arabs. It's for everyone. Not only for the sons of Ibrahim(AS) or Ishmael(AS), but for the sons of Adam(AS).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            no only israelites and muslims have "sacred houses" that they pray to.
            don't throw Christians in with your "buildimg worship"

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no only israelites and muslims have "sacred houses" that they pray to.
            Neither israelites nor Muslims pray to a house but pray in a house to God just as you pray in your Church anon.
            What they have is holy artifacts such as the temple of solomon or the true cross. A sacred artifact is neither deified nor worshipped but is considered holy. And the source of all holyness, is Al Quddus (in arabic, the most holy), or in hebrew Kadosh Ha Kadoshim.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            quit moving the goal posts. you face a building as do the israelites. you didnt say "we pray IN a building". like i said...quit shifting and leave Christians out of the whole building thing.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh we both know who's playing with words and it's not me. Praying God in a place is not praying to the place and you know that well. The temple of solomon is not worshipped and neither is the Kaaba and you know that just as well as i do.
            It's a place of gathering of believers and a place of worship no different than any Church but to which more importance is given just as you do with your True Cross.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            again. Moving the goalposts. you DIRECT your prayer to A BUILDING, as israelites do. no one said "you PRAY to a building".

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Kaabah is the original mosque and the source of monotheism. We point toward the source to remind us of the primordial nature of monotheism.
            The israelites also used to pray toward the Kaabah and were pilgrims to the Kaabah, until they became ethnocentric and turned toward their own city Jerusalem, which is why they still use phylacteries to replace the Kaabah.
            Praying toward Jerusalem indicates that the israeli people take precedence over monotheism. Praying toward the Kaabah indicates that monotheism takes precedence over tribal allegiances.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            if that was the case, mohammed wouldve never prayed to the temple in Jerusalem.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why not? The premises of the Kaabah were filled with idols when he prayed toward Jerusalem. He stopped praying toward Jerusalem once it was revealed to him that the Kaabah itself should be restored to its original state.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            so Allah didn't tell him to fix the kaaba from the very beginning? odd.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If that happened, an example would not have been set of a people who rejected God. This is like asking why the Qur'an wasn't sent upon a people who would immediately accept it.
            It's an Afghan joke that if the Prophet(S) was sent to the Afghans, they would have immediately accepted his message of monotheism. The Prophet(S) was sent to the Arabs because they would reject it. Just like Jesus(PBUH) was sent to the israelites because they would reject him. These are examples for us of defiant disobedience of peoples who existed before us.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >monotheism
            Tawheed means monotheism (because that's where Muslims get it from?? SINCE WHEN?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The root of tawhid is wa-ha-da. Literally one.

            The word literally means something like "making one"/unifying.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Muhammad prayed to the temple in Jerusalem
            >not a single kilba has ever pointed that direction
            What?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because proper mosques were established at a later time.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You owe 50 more licks to your stone for your lies. At the time you stone lickers were enslaving people, our God inspired his church to state that natives in the new world were to be treated as human beings and evangelized. Slavery was strictly prohibited. Charles the 5th took this Bull and made it civil law under the New Laws. Islam has nothing like this since you worship a demon.

            https://www.papalencyclicals.net/paul03/p3subli.htm

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Peasants were never enslaved in Islam to begin with.

            And how in the world is an American lecturing anyone on the treatment of war captives? What's Guantanamo Bay? What's Abu Ghraib?

            Instead of integrating the old Iraqi admins, what did Americans do? Expel all of them, leading to the rise of literal ISIS.

            In Islamic "slavery", the old admins would be flown to DC, would live in the houses of congresspeople, given the same food, education, and clothing as congresspeople, be trained in American law and customs, and return eventually to administer the new Iraqi state.

            What happened instead?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            See instead of engaging in the debate that God prohibits slavery or forced conversion, the stone lickers resort to Whataboutisms. You cannot defend your demonic beliefs. Turn to God or face damnation no stone will save you. Muhammad is in hell. He cannot intercede for At judgment. He will be crying myself myself along with you unless you repent.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            not very well versed in your religion are you?
            youre supposed to fight Christians and embarrass them (bring them with chains around their necks. bring them, meaning go get them) until the convert or pay jizya.
            I'm gueasing you've never read THE PACT OF UMAR?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Spot on assessment. Anyone with above room temp iq can see their tactics exposed here. They lash out in tantrums when muslims speak about their submission to the one and only God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mooslems worship a demon. They deny the Father because they deny the Son.

            1 John 2:22-23
            >22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
            >23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            One can believe both that Jesus was a prophet and that only one God is worthy of praise. These two things are not diametrically opposed. Jesus was not God. God is God, Jesus was a prophet.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            no. 640yrs Jesus was Jesus. it wasn't until your prophet came around making up stories about a guy named ISA (no Arab Christian knows this guy) that he wasnt God.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            ?si=ns0zmeBs4z-aVGeJ

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            And for anyone questioning the difference between what God wants and what allah wants, here’s the text. Islam is a perversion of Justice and truth. This stone licker admitted it.

            >Hence Christ, who is the Truth itself, that has never failed and can never fail, said to the preachers of the faith whom He chose for that office ‘Go ye and teach all nations.’ He said all, without exception, for all are capable of receiving the doctrines of the faith.

            >The enemy of the human race, who opposes all good deeds in order to bring men to destruction, beholding and envying this, invented a means never before heard of, by which he might hinder the preaching of God’s word of Salvation to the people: he inspired his satellites who, to please him, have not hesitated to publish abroad that the Indians of the West and the South, and other people of whom We have recent knowledge should be treated as dumb brutes created for our service, pretending that they are incapable of receiving the Catholic Faith.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          What do you consider as crimes?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Torture, rape, genocide, forceful conversion.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            all things that both christianity and Islam condemn.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >forceful conversion
            are you serious?

            kek, post the full hadith,

            you obviously dont trust me...
            I'm waiting for you. take the hadith number I gave you to any site you want and show us all.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            still waiting for the full hadith

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            since youre not man enough to show us, I guess I'll have to. I'll even let you pick where I get it from, that's how nice of a guy I am. what site would you like me to get it from (it's your birthday, any site you want)!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nervous googling intensifies
            you still there, ibn saud?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            post the hadith like he said you sodomite

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            ibn Saud ran. unless you're ibn Saud with a new ip. maybe? kek.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think organized religions are useful to control populations and as a way to suppress the fear of soldiers in war.

            It can easily be misused by people who just wanted power.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            So are you guys just liars or are you savage brown morons who ignore your holy book and just casually commit at atrocities all the time ?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Islam is moronic. Praying to a pagan god (the black stone), kissing a pagan god (the black stone), and worshipping a pagan god (the black stone) is idolatry. Why do you have allah when you worship the same stone your pagan ancestors worshiped?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No his brown ass made the whole thing up to get underage pussy

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >calls allah the best deceiver
    yeah, something wrong here

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn’t

      you’re intentionally misinterpreting what is actually translated as “planner”

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    you wont live that long. you will find out.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arabia was already steeped in superstition and idol worship at the time. Why would a jinn look at all of this and go hmmm you know what these pagans need? Someone to call them to worshipping one God.

  15. 5 months ago
    ChristianIdentitarian

    Jinn is Talmudic nonsense. Allah is Satan.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jinns are absolutely terrifying. The one and only time I encountered one I actually prayed to Jesus/god and for some higher power to save me and I am not even religious.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still respect muslims more than atheists.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Quran has a lot of very specific entries about slavery, rape and genocide
    I'm sure it would be easy for you to state some of those entries for us, shit flinger ziohazard homosexual

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      only what i learned from memes and listening to imams online trying to incite violence while talking about conquering the world.

  19. 5 months ago
    ChristianIdentitarian

    All Non-Christians are of the devil.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are instructed by sharia law not to think

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        true. their ibn Taymiyyah made that very clear.
        >"Those who use logic, are philosophers. and those who use philosophy, are not of Islam" -ibn Taymiyyah

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The philosophy that's being referred to here is Greek philosophy. What he's essentially saying is that Islamic theology should be developed from Islamic foundations, not from the integration of foreign ideas into Islam, which might rest of fundamentally different axioms. It was a debate over this particular verse. Muslims are
          >>Who listen to speech and follow the best of it. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding.
          So, is integrating Platonic philosophy into Islam taking the best of others, or is it corrupting others? This was the question. This debate continues to this day - is there such a thing as Islamic constitutional democracy or is it fundamentally kufr, as it rests on majoritarianism and not absolute truth? Do the structures of Western democracies fundamentally lead to totalitarianism or can they be reconciled with Islam? Much like Ibn Taymiyyah and al-Ghazali, I tend to answering in the negative.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            philosophy in general. ibn Taymiiyah was very clear on that. and if you have a reference contradicting inn Taymiyyah, id love to see it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not philosophy in general. He himself wrote books on aqeedah.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes. it's philosophy in general. still waiting on a source for your claim.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Read the entirety of whatever your source is to see what he's arguing against. It's an Islamic principle in general to not speculate on inaccessible knowledge, as that might lead to superstitions and religious innovations.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            still waiting for your source. get it from ANY ibn Taymiyyah book you want. A N Y book you want, and show me.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally all of them contain "philosophy". It's crazy that you're even arguing this. Here's the first thing that comes up after googling:
            https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/jais/volume/docs/vol14/v14_07_ajhar_137-154.pdf
            He was only against speculative theology borrowed from the Greeks. Much like Muslims today are against any notion of integrating Western political thought into Islam. All of Islam must emerge from "no god but God". Any other influence is fundamentally corrupting.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            You're gonna find out too late that choosing this world is choosing death. Behold, i did warn you.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            When did I choose this world? I submit only to God. I choose everything other than this world. I choose God, and only God.

          • 5 months ago
            ChristianIdentitarian

            If you were of GOD you'd hear his voice and you wouldn't be a Muslim. Let no man deceive you for our LORD liveth forevermore and JESUS reigneth even for all of eternity. Our Father is Truth, heathen.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            a UK website? are you going to give me a wiki article next? give. me. a. source. straight. from. the. books.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            HOLY SHIT YOU REALLY DID JUST SHOW ME A WIKI ARTICLE?!

            Go to the references. I'm presenting the easiest accessible English sources.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            show. me. the. references.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you trolling?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh you can read arabic?? sweet. can you tell me what this says...I cant into Arabic.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Samad became Samud became Huba.
            So?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            and what were they? I think you missed that part. tell everybody, were waiting.
            >allahu as-samad

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            A god can be named anything. If a God is named "Eternal", does that mean we can no longer say that God is eternal?
            In the context of Islam, the meaning of Samad is clear.
            >This rendering gives no more than an approximate meaning of the term aṣ-ṣamad, which occurs in the Qurʾān only once, and is applied to God alone. It comprises the concepts of Primary Cause and eternal, independent Being, combined with the idea that everything existing or conceivable goes back to Him as its source and is, therefore, dependent on Him for its beginning as well as for its continued existence.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            ibn Kathir, the most trusted scholar of Islam next to at-Tabari says otherwise, ibn Kathir

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            How does he say otherwise? You're quoting the tafsir of another verse.
            https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=9&tTafsirNo=84&tSoraNo=7&tAyahNo=72&tDisplay=yes&LanguageID=1
            Now, go to the tafsir of Surah Ikhlas, which explains the meaning of as-Samad in Islam.
            I'm posting an English source source since you said you don't know Arabic.
            https://www.alim.org/quran/tafsir/ibn-kathir/surah/112/1/

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh I know exactly what iklas says in English, and yet every scholar admits they have no idea what it means...except ibn Kathir. ibn Kathir says as-Samad is an idol. (Samud, al- Haba).
            >ibn Kathir/physical book 2 for 7:70

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's not what Ibn Kathir says. He says in the exegesis of another verse that there was an idol called Samad which became Samud which became Huba. These are merely naming conventions. Like I said, one God can be named "Eternal". That doesn't mean you can no longer say God is eternal. In fact, the word "God" itself has pagan origins.
            For what Ibn Kathir considers the meaning of as-Samad in Islam. Go to the links I posted and read what it says.
            And plenty of scholars have commented on the meaning of as-Samad. Here's Tabari, for example.
            https://quran.com/112:2/tafsirs/ar-tafsir-al-tabari

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            low effort christcuck material

            you can do better, You can right ?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm still waiting ibn Saud. remember, ANY site you want. A N Y.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ye ye ye

            https://www.dropbox.com/s/0f1ga9cvekt18au/Reliance-of-the-Traveller-AppendixW.pdf

            Sharia law manual with all the filthy shit tagged for everyone to see.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jinns are created beings and subjected to the forces of nature and the will of Allah. It is impossible for a Jinn to be a deity. The only deity is Allah because he created the universe, all beings (including Jinn) and all forces of nature.

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    #3 have her washed and brought to my tent.

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i take all 4 and convert them to chrstianity by having sex with them and telling them i am jesus

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Point is there is not a single supernatural event or miracle in that case which Mohammed performed. Mohammed's "miracle" according to him is the.... Quran. And anyone who can read knows that it's a MESS.
    Jesus was followed purely because of the proof he provided, the miracles. Without them he would just be a just preacher.

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    rape, sex, frick, impregnate - in no particular order

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Islam always used as poltical tool to mobolize allah worshipers in wars since islam created .

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    like every other saint, holy man, bhudda in history.
    They either a big landowner warlord or family was one and thats how you know peasant scum.

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Muslims share something with israelites and Zoroastrians that was removed from Christianity and is why israelites will call a Christian an Idolater while at the same time referring to a Muslim as someone who believes in God (implying it is the same God) even though they deny Muhammad as a prophet.

    What is completely alien to the modern Christian belief that needs to put proper names and affiliation upon the subject of worship is that at their root, abrahamic monotheistic religions imply the belief in one creator who is unseen and who will judge humanity. Whoever that creator is, that is the entity refered to as Allah by Muslims and Hashem or El by israelites. The eternal source of life from which everything comes and to which everything returns.

    Whoever that is, he is the subject of the beliefs of the monotheists. That is why all names of God in monotheism are adjectives describing one of his qualities.

    Adonai means my Lord
    El Shaddai means the Strong, the Mighty

    Allah means "the one and only God"
    Al Rahman means "the Merciful"
    Al Quddus means "the most holy"

    Understanding the creator in monotheistic religions is done by reflecting on his creation and seeking wisdom on the signs that surround one in his daily life and none of this would achieve any substantial understanding of the divine which is said to only be fully grasped on the day of the judgement.

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, how would Islam differ if Mohamnonce was was tricked by Satan?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Muhammad spoke to satan and spread his message on two occasions. These are the satanic verses. The story of the cranes and the story of the maidans. Muhammad ordered his followers to worship pagan gods. They still do to this day as the black stone is a pagan god (akin to a statue of Zeus, Arab gods were geometric shapes, not human).

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >talking about islam online
    >trying to convert people on /misc/

    it's like they want their religion to die

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    How can Christians be sure Paul wasn't a subversive israelite?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's what the Talmud says and what every rabbi in the world taught to say about Paul. where do you think islamists get the Paul talking point? the rabbinics.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        if you want to do what the bible says give all your shit away to Black folk that have less than you. when some aliens show up to conquer you, don't fight back and instead fight them with LOVE! than the magical israelite god will beam you up to heaven so you can get your fairy tale ending.

        or if you don't want to actually do what the bible says, you can just put one hand on the Bible and say "I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ!" At this point you're not really a religious man, just in a cult. But you still get to go to heaven, because in the end its all about what you are going to get as a reward, amirite?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          dont be sad Black person.

    • 5 months ago
      ChristianIdentitarian

      If that was the case those writings wouldn't be sealed into the king James version in the presence of our LORD JESUS Christ during our LORD'S millennial reign. I suspect that the disbelief in the Holy Spirit that worked though the apostle Paul started with women who refused to cover their hairs. What you're doing constitutes blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That and Paul was in Rome with Peter and Paul’s two disciples wrote down what Peter was teaching in the Gospels of Mark and Luke. This “muh Paul” argument is nonsense.

        Meanwhile the Quran was written by Uthman 300 years after Muhammad’s death.

        • 5 months ago
          ChristianIdentitarian

          >That and Paul was in Rome with Peter and Paul’s two disciples wrote down what Peter was teaching in the Gospels of Mark and Luke.
          Based! I'll just state that the works of the Holy Ghost are of GOD and not of His servants.
          >Meanwhile the Quran was written by Uthman 300 years after Muhammad’s death.
          Pretty sure the Qur'an was written by pharisees since it's pretty much a short Talmud that denies the ten commandments in the same way and allows deviations of the same nature and is written in wisdom that demands diabolic inspiration (conquest and supremacy tactics).

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mohammad was a false profit warlord who used his false teachings to wage war and indulge in his pedophilic fantasy's

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You people all have the same script, it’s pathetic really.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It ain't a script, it's the truth.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You know marriage to girls that have had their cycle wasn’t taboo until very modern times. The advent of the industrial age made that a thing of the past because having trad wives tending to their roles as mothers and keepers of the stead is counter to pumping out more widgets at mr shekelsteins factory of cheap trinkets for the low price of your soul.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >profit

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Changed flag

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Changed flag

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    because the israelite rabbi told them

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    In this video you will find out why it is important to clean your nose according to Mohammed.

  40. 5 months ago
    Kurdish Atheist Anti-Islamic Conservative Nationalist

    Mohammed was a disgusting schizophrenic pedophile who had frequent hallucinations and epileptic episodes

  41. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Djinn are creation, Allah is the Creator

  42. 5 months ago
    ChristianIdentitarian

    "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not".
    - John chapter 1 verse 5.

  43. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do Christians know that Yahweh is not just a Gnome?

    • 5 months ago
      ChristianIdentitarian

      One of the first things i was shown on the day i meat Christ JESUS was that our LORD JESUS Christ has the form of a man while the GOD of hosts has no form and the twine are one with the Holy Ghost that proceeds from GOD.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just find it funny, that Hinduism describes the concept of trinity way better than Christianity does (given that it's one of the main pillars of their religion), because they have a God who did this Jesus stick ten times.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I just find it funny, that Hinduism describes the concept of trinity way better than Christianity does

          They don't have trinity. The pagan trinity concept came AFTER christianity. And it's not the same. Three different gods are not what trinity is.

          This is an additional precaution. Any hafidh still receives the Qur'an with a chain of transmission.
          >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijazah#Example_of_a_Quran_Ijazah

          >Any hafidh still receives the Qur'an with a chain of transmission.

          The written records of said transmissions where written AFTER THEY WERE MADE. It's a made up fricking story. Hadith were written BEFORE the their chains of naration.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Qur'an could be written down in the first place because it is oral literature.
            For the ahadith, we also examine the biographies of the transmitters and the compilers.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biographical_evaluation

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hindu gods aren’t different gods. They are all manifestations of Brahman, the supreme reality.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said that thinking came AFTER christianity. They absolutely do NOT have a trinity. They are all different entities doing their thing.

            >The Qur'an could be written down in the first place because it is oral literature.

            We KNOW that Muhammad had a SCRIBE and a secretary. It's in your fricking traditions stop with the low tier lying

  44. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheists cannot understand any answer about spirituality.
    They're not even really interested in acquiring this kind of knowledge.
    Atheism is a disease.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am not an atheist but I cannot tell you what I believe in because others will make fun of it.

      I am sorry If I hurt anybody. Stay strong in what you believe in.

  45. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=ns0zmeBs4z-aVGeJ

    thread theme soundtrack

  46. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is a djinn. An evil spirit even. And it's quite powerful and fat now. But it's not invincible. Someone will kill it. It is ordained.

  47. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just like other seculars; Muh feels.

  48. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This shit is so easy any can be achieved by anyone. Literally just meditate. After some amount of time, your mind will become still. In that moment, you will feel God, and you will know what every spiritual leader on this planet was trying to describe. The problem is that it is completely indescribable.

  49. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Islamophobia is wrong.

  50. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    muslims, how do you justify polytheism when God made one man and one woman by his side, and Christ saying to take but one wife
    it seems very wrong that someone in a marriage can start lusting over another woman, and another, and another

  51. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mohhammadism heretics simply ignores your arguments when then can't reply to you, ask any of them why does they Renegade the merits of Aramaic texts and thinks they have the right of claiming worshipping Allah who firstly came for Adam who spokes Aramaic, not arab

  52. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Utter joke of a religion

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