Have there ever been any Catholic idealists, or is christian idealism mostly a prot thing?

Have there ever been any Catholic idealists, or is christian idealism mostly a prot thing?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

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  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give some examples

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t know that’s why I’m asking here.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean the prot thing

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Berkeley
          Collier
          Lotze
          Hegel
          Mary Baker Eddy
          Just off the top of my head, Anecdotally, about half the christians I knew in uni were idealists.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Idealism or realism is common. Materialism, on the other hand, is contrary to the church in general.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            idealism and realism are not the same thing.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it is

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Anecdotally, about half the christians I knew in uni were idealists.
            Inspiringphilosophy has been a disaster for the Christian religion

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen the word idealism denote the most varied positions, sometimes the same doctrine being called idealist or anti-idealist. I've seen the following called or calling themselves idealists: Augustine, Ficino, Descartes, Malebranche, Maine de Biran, Bolzano (I've also seen him described as antiidealist), Gentile, Bergson, Le Senne, Lavelle, Teilhard de Chardin, etc.
    Insofar as idealism is defined in contrast to an Aristotelian realism it's mostly Thomism that is the non-idealist philosophical movement frequent among Catholics.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the phrase “idealism” should only refer to reductive idealism.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idealism for the most part is anything that takes Augustinianism at face value

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Schlegel?

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love it when cultist protestant evangelists spam their ill informed dross inappropriately
    https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07634a.htm

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      ? Take your meds

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Idealism in life is the characteristic of those who regard the ideas of truth and right, goodness and beauty, as standards and directive forces.
        That’s a terrible definition kek

        It is certainly a matter of regret that the terms idea, idealist, and idealism, originally so rich in content, should be so far degraded as to signify such aberrations of thought.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Idealism in life is the characteristic of those who regard the ideas of truth and right, goodness and beauty, as standards and directive forces.
      That’s a terrible definition kek

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do these prot evangelicals live in your head rent free or something? Piss off. Billy Graham has been dead for years

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    if by "idealism" you mean either the denial of the existence of matter and the claim that everything that there is is thought or the claim that although matter does exist, it is metaphysically not fundamental but instead rather "grounded" in thought, then I think that it would be a very moronic thing to hold for Catholics, who kneel when they utter "et Verbum caro factum est" and believe in the real presence of the Eucharist, i. e. the real presence of the Eternal Logos in what once was bread and wine.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idealism holds that the world around us is very much real, but not physical. The physical world is a “dashboard” that helps us navigate reality.I think Transubstantiation actually makes much more sense in that context.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not physical
        you mean
        >the denial of the existence of matter
        ?
        Because if so, then the Logos could not really become flesh, i.e. matter. No incarnation then, also no transsubstantiation.

        >Transsubstantiation makes much more sense if we believe that the world around us is not physical
        ??? whut. Do you know what it means to say that the substantial form of some quantity of matter has changed? Because there it implies that there is some QUANTITY of STUFF that changes substantially, while many of the accidental forms remain, like the PHYSICAL appearance.
        Hitler (picrel) is not impressed.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reality is physical to us
          It is not physical fundamentally

          Both are true.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

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  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aquinas. The form exists in God's mind. The accidental substance is not "physical," it only appears physical. It is the representation presented through our senses.

    Aquinas is basically Schopenhauer, but realizing that we are different beings, not just one big consciousness.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aquinas is the realist philosopher. To the point he can be used as the reference from which to define the term with both clarity and richness of content, instead of endless talmudic semantic games that no one has agreed on for centuries.

      Do these prot evangelicals live in your head rent free or something? Piss off. Billy Graham has been dead for years

      >Do these prot evangelicals live in your head rent free or something? Piss off. Billy Graham has been dead for years
      To be fair he's American (non mutts wouldn't even think about them). They have a humiliating reminder carved into their bodies.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Realism is idealism. Forms can only exist in mind. Ties it all together.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

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