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Why do people worship this desert demon again?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    god works in mysterious ways

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Why do people worship this desert demon again?
    Because if they don’t, they’ll burn in hell. DUH

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a strawman.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      show us your mental gymastics on this stupid ass adam & eve story then

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    God gifted sovereignty of the garden to Adam. Adam and Eve handed it over to Satan. Satan is "the prince of this world" thanks to Adam's choice. God out of love provides a way for the descendants of Adam to reconcile themselves and to thereby reclaim the gift that was first given to Adam.
    >why couldn't He just have allowed Adam's children back into the garden
    They themselves had sinned by that point.
    >why couldn't He have taken back Adam's immediate descendants as infants before they had the chance to sin
    The infants still had the proclivity to sin thanks to their father's wilful choice. The son of an alcoholic will not be blamed for his father's choice, but he will suffer as a result of his father's alcoholism and will be more likely to become an alcoholic himself.
    >why
    Because for reality to have meaning, it must have gravity. Our choices have to have a concrete effect on our environment and those around us otherwise life loses its cohesion.
    >why
    Because that's the substance of life. You cannot question it or challenge it any more than you can question or challenge the coming in and going out of the tide. We cannot know everything, but we can know enough to trust in the God who does. The God who, despite everything, still provides a man with so much goodness, so much life.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God gifted sovereignty of the garden to Adam.

      Show me the verse that says that.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Show me the verse that says that.
        >Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground. (Genesis 1:26)

        If he had sovereignty over the garden, he would not have to follow God's rules about not eating from certain trees. It would be his garden, his rules, not God's. But as you see, God was actually still in charge of it all, and your cope fails from your very first sentence.

        One can hand over something on the basis of certain conditions.

        >but he will suffer as a result of his father's alcoholism
        True.
        >and will be more likely to become an alcoholic himself.
        This is bullshit. Punishing someone because you think they will end like their parents in the future is ridiculous. Instead you should be providing them with a healthy environment so that they grow into better people unlike their parents. Imagine if Social Services declared children of abisers, rapists and pedophiles will not be taken care, instead they will be punished, because they believe they will become like their parents. Luckily humans seem smarter and more empathetic than God.

        >Punishing someone because you think they will end like their parents in the future is ridiculous
        They're not being punished for their proclivity to sin; they're being punished for the sins they themselves actually commit. Sticking sinners back in the garden would not prevent them from sinning.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They're not being punished for their proclivity to sin; they're being punished for the sins they themselves actually commit. Sticking sinners back in the garden would not prevent them from sinning.
          Nope. We are clearky talking about infants here. Just as you said

          God gifted sovereignty of the garden to Adam. Adam and Eve handed it over to Satan. Satan is "the prince of this world" thanks to Adam's choice. God out of love provides a way for the descendants of Adam to reconcile themselves and to thereby reclaim the gift that was first given to Adam.
          >why couldn't He just have allowed Adam's children back into the garden
          They themselves had sinned by that point.
          >why couldn't He have taken back Adam's immediate descendants as infants before they had the chance to sin
          The infants still had the proclivity to sin thanks to their father's wilful choice. The son of an alcoholic will not be blamed for his father's choice, but he will suffer as a result of his father's alcoholism and will be more likely to become an alcoholic himself.
          >why
          Because for reality to have meaning, it must have gravity. Our choices have to have a concrete effect on our environment and those around us otherwise life loses its cohesion.
          >why
          Because that's the substance of life. You cannot question it or challenge it any more than you can question or challenge the coming in and going out of the tide. We cannot know everything, but we can know enough to trust in the God who does. The God who, despite everything, still provides a man with so much goodness, so much life.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Should have said: "Sticking sinners and infants who are born with the proclivity to sin back in the garden would not prevent either group from sinning."

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again, infants aren't sinners. The argument that they might sin in the future, therefore deserved to be grouped with sinners, is dishonest.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The argument that they might sin in the future
            It isn't a question of might. Everyone who has the proclivity to sin will sin. They are not being kept out of the garden as a punishment for future sins they have yet to commit; they are kept out as a consequence of Adam's sin. What you are essentially asking for is for God to remove the consequence, but I cannot think of a point in the Bible where a consequence in itself is wiped out completely. Again, I think this has to do with cohesion. Asking for a cause not to lead to some kind of an effect may in fact be an invalid request.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They're not being punished for their proclivity to sin; they're being punished for the sins they themselves actually commit.

          When a 2 year old child gets cancer, what sins did it commit to deserve this punishment?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            None. Justice isn't individualistic.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It cried. That is an act of verbal violence and is a sin worthy of the lake if fire.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know about that. Ask Cepitore back on reddit.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Somehow I doubt Cepitore is a validly ordained minister.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      If he had sovereignty over the garden, he would not have to follow God's rules about not eating from certain trees. It would be his garden, his rules, not God's. But as you see, God was actually still in charge of it all, and your cope fails from your very first sentence.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Adam and Eve handed it over to Satan
      They habded it to a snake

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but he will suffer as a result of his father's alcoholism
      True.
      >and will be more likely to become an alcoholic himself.
      This is bullshit. Punishing someone because you think they will end like their parents in the future is ridiculous. Instead you should be providing them with a healthy environment so that they grow into better people unlike their parents. Imagine if Social Services declared children of abisers, rapists and pedophiles will not be taken care, instead they will be punished, because they believe they will become like their parents. Luckily humans seem smarter and more empathetic than God.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Chingchong did Pingpong in Bingbong and that is why you're Linglong...
      I don't fricking care. I am white. European. Leave me alone with your israeli mythology.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They themselves had sinned by that point.
      No they hadn't.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    People forget that YHWH is just the israeli interpretation of God, and israelites are neurotic, so of course their God is too.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do people worship this desert demon again?

    Inability to critically think.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do people worship this desert demon again?
    They really, really want to LARP as their grandfathers. Failed normalgays, if you will.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > israelite seething at Christianity thread #665766
    This shit never gets old.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christians are too low IQ to recognize or process non surface level dynamics.

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