Give me a single clear, unequivocal, unambiguous verse in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God, worship me"

Give me a single clear, unequivocal, unambiguous verse in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God, worship me"

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  1. 7 months ago
    JWanon

    There is none but I can tell you where Muhammad was predicted in the Bible

    Galatians 1:8
    1 John 2:22
    Matthew 24:24

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best i can do is fanfic written by the bros.

      go drink your poison Kool aid already

      So the israelites gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.

      Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

      >clear, unequivocal,unambiguous verse

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought Pakistan was a high-context culture like Japan, meaning they don't need everything explicitly spelled out for them like in Germany or the Netherlands, which are low-context cultures.

      • 7 months ago
        JWanon

        >go drink your poison Kool aid already

        Suicide is a sin, why do you want me to commit a sin ?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          denying the deity of Christ is a sin.

          bearing false witness against children abused by your elders is a sin.

          polytheism is a sin (you believe Archangel Michael is Jesus)

          discouraging people from celebrating God's ultimate gift is not a sin, but sling as frick
          >24 This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will arejoice and be glad in it. 25 Save now, I beseech thee, O Lord: O Lord, I beseech thee, send now prosperity. 26 aBlessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord.

          Why don't you do us a favor and commit the one sin that we can forgive you for?

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            >denying the deity of Christ is a sin.

            I agree, Christ is divine but the Father is greater than him. Only the Father is God

            >bearing false witness against children abused by your elders is a sin.

            I agree, God will, unquestionably, bring a heavy judgement on those who abuse children. That they claim to be Jehovah’s Witnesses is irrelevant, since God is not fooled. (Romans 12:19; Galatians 6:7; Hebrews 4:13)

            >polytheism is a sin

            I agree, Jehovah is the only one that must be worshipped

            >you believe Archangel Michael is Jesus

            Yes, Jesus and Michael are the same individual

            >discouraging people from celebrating God's ultimate gift is not a sin, but sling as frick
            >24 This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will arejoice and be glad in it. 25 Save now, I beseech thee, O Lord: O Lord, I beseech thee, send now prosperity. 26 aBlessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord.

            I agree, we celebrate the gift of the ransom every year at the Lord's evening meal

            >Why don't you do us a favor and commit the one sin that we can forgive you for?

            Why would I commit a sin ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Too bad the universal church decided that Jesus is consubstantial with the Father Arius.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would I commit a sin ?
            Because the world would be better off without you, you French subhuman.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because they are endoctrinated

        [...]
        Jesus perfectly reflected the personnality of his Father, it doesn't make him God

        >"I and my Father are one."
        >Then the israelites took up stones again to stone him.
        >Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
        >The israelites answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
        >Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
        >If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
        >Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

        So yes, he is declaring himself to be God here. The audience understood it as such, and when they asked him whether or not this was the case, intending to kill him for saying so, he rebuked them.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I am the Son of God

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I see we're ignoring everything else here?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe.
        I think you have bigger things to worry about like your reading comprehension

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jehovah's Witnesses are also Muslims?

      • 7 months ago
        JWanon

        We are not, what makes you say that ?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >where Muhammad was predicted

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            Yes, Muhammad is predicted in the Bible

            How does that make me a muslim ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't believing in Muhammad make a person Muslim? I'm confused.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Christians believe Satan exists. I guess that explains their behavior.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            What behavior ?

            Being honest ? Steadfast ? Generous ? Insightful ?

            I agree

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Being honest ?
            *breaks treaties with indians*
            >Steadfast ?
            *kills his Christian bros for money during Crusades*
            >Generous ?
            *steals every inch of land from natives*
            >Insightful
            *regurgitates israeli mythology*

            Don't fricking bother responding if you're going to use that midwit NO TRUE SCOTSMAN fallacy. If you want me to accept that as an argument then I will gladly accept it as an argument from other denominations who call you a freak and not a real Christian.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            >*breaks treaties with indians*

            Puritans did that, not Christians

            >*kills his Christian bros for money during Crusades*

            Catholics did that, not Christians

            >*steals every inch of land from natives*

            Puritans did that, not Christians

            >*regurgitates israeli mythology*

            Evangelicals did that, not Christians

            >Don't fricking bother responding if you're going to use that midwit NO TRUE SCOTSMAN fallacy. If you want me to accept that as an argument then I will gladly accept it as an argument from other denominations who call you a freak and not a real Christian.

            The Bible alone defines what a true Christian is

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            cope

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            I don't need to cope, we are God's chosen people

            And if that bothers you, you are welcome to join us

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            cope

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bring Jesus quote
      >quotes equivocal verses from Paul and a pseudopigraphia

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    why muslims worship this pajeet so much

    • 7 months ago
      JWanon

      Because they are endoctrinated

      So the israelites gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.

      Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

      Jesus perfectly reflected the personnality of his Father, it doesn't make him God

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you kidding? Dr Naik put forward the most eloquent of and convincing of arguments as to why it is OK for Muslim men to orgasm inside of goats.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      brother makes a good point!

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So the israelites gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.

    Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    In all the synoptic gospels Jesus, at his trial, Jesus affirms the charge that He is the Messiah, and the son of God. So there's 3. John contains many situations where Jesus makes the claim in a way which is clear if you are familiar with scripture. There is no point where he says "I am God, worship me" (I don't think he ever asks to be "worshipped" exactly), and I think this is very significant, and an indication that Jesus has this dual nature. He is God, and he is man. I will leave it to galaxybrain theologians to explain the precise mechanics of this, but I think it makes sense that the conditions of the Incarnation are such that anything he says can affirm His divinity, but can't deny His mortality.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
    Then Jesus told him,“Because you have seen me, you have believed;blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
    John 20:28-29

    • 7 months ago
      JWanon

      In all the synoptic gospels Jesus, at his trial, Jesus affirms the charge that He is the Messiah, and the son of God. So there's 3. John contains many situations where Jesus makes the claim in a way which is clear if you are familiar with scripture. There is no point where he says "I am God, worship me" (I don't think he ever asks to be "worshipped" exactly), and I think this is very significant, and an indication that Jesus has this dual nature. He is God, and he is man. I will leave it to galaxybrain theologians to explain the precise mechanics of this, but I think it makes sense that the conditions of the Incarnation are such that anything he says can affirm His divinity, but can't deny His mortality.

      Jesus is a god but he is not God Almighty

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus is God but not God the Father Almighty

        • 7 months ago
          JWanon

          Only the Father is Almighty. The Father is greater than the Son.

          The Son is a god, but not THE GOD !

          Doesn't believing in Muhammad make a person Muslim? I'm confused.

          I don't believe Muhammad was a prophet though

          John 14:6 is incredibly explicit, the Sermon on the Mount isn't explicit as in "saying he's God" but is explicit in rewriting the law of Moses which is something only God could have the authority to do.

          Jesus didn't rewrite the Law, he perfectly obeyed the Law. What he did was challenge the false interpretation of the Law by the Pharisees

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >is not the God
            That isn't how Greek works. If you want to talk like that you should also be referring to Jesus as the Jesus.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    John 14:6 is incredibly explicit, the Sermon on the Mount isn't explicit as in "saying he's God" but is explicit in rewriting the law of Moses which is something only God could have the authority to do.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't this count against him being God because he's making a distinction between himself and the Father?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father but the Father and the Son are both objectively God.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's begging the question. What's in question is if Jesus is God so you can't say "but the Father and the Son are both objectively God."

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't recognize the Chalcedonian definition
            Try reading the Athanasian Creed sometime

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're appealing to something outside of the Bible. The question is about verses from the Bible

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Bible was used as a liturgical text in the context of the early church. Thus extra-biblical witness is legitimate.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus did not write the Athanasian creed. The question is where did Jesus say he is God in his own words

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            He never did. Paul even says the contrary in Philippians 2:6

            English Standard Version
            who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

            Berean Standard Bible
            Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

            Berean Literal Bible
            Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

            Jesus never tried to be equal to Jehovah, to usurp his place as God, unlike Satan.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is true. Which is why Jesus stops the man who called him good teacher to correct him. Whenever praise is given to Jesus that belongs to God, Jesus deflects that praise to God. He asked the man "why do you call me good?" Only God is good. Jesus of course was extremely cognizant of the fact that everything he is was given to him by God. Thus God deserves the glory.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            Amen, amen

      • 7 months ago
        JWanon

        Indeed

        >is not the God
        That isn't how Greek works. If you want to talk like that you should also be referring to Jesus as the Jesus.

        By THE GOD I mean Jehovah

        >Why would I commit a sin ?
        Because the world would be better off without you, you French subhuman.

        JWs are the protagonists of real life

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nicene Christians are the protagonists of real life

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            Nope, JWs are

            Nicene "Christians" are responsible for the worst atrocities in human history

            They have blood on their hands

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            And the blood of the lamb cleanses us from our sins, your point?

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            The blood only cleanses those who repent and turn to Jehovah, not those who turn to the trinitarian idol and Babylon the Great

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lol no, you are the guys who got a one way ticket to the eternal lake of fire

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mark 10:18

    • 7 months ago
      JWanon

      Jesus here is displaying humility by giving all the praise to Jehovah, he who is good to the highest degree in existence !

      Too bad the universal church decided that Jesus is consubstantial with the Father Arius.

      I follow the word of God, not the word of men

      It is no interest of mine what Constantine's political agent have decided

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        wrong, he is claiming to be god, since he is good he is god, that is what he is saying.

        • 7 months ago
          JWanon

          Jesus is good, but God is food at the supreme level !

          Hence why Jesus directed the attention to God, not to himself

          The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father but the Father and the Son are both objectively God.

          The Son is a god, but the Father is greater than the Son

          Therefore the Father alone is God Almighty, the uncreated Creator and Lord of the universe. He is the God of Jesus. Jesus is second to him

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            no they are co-equal
            >Then the angel showed me the riverof the water of life,as clear as crystal,flowingfrom the throne of God and of the Lamb
            Revelation 22:1

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            >Then the angel showed me the riverof the water of life,as clear as crystal,flowingfrom the throne of God and of the Lamb

            That verse says nowhere that they are co-equal

            Quite the contrary actually:

            “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”—John 14:28.

            “I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”—John 20:17.

            “To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.

            “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”—1 Peter 1:3.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.
            This is a very important verse because it establishes how the Father and God are interchangeably used. While Jesus is Lord. There is a distinction. So where Jesus says that the Father is greater than him, he's saying God is greater than him.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            Exactly

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >“My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”—John 14:28.
            Yeah because the Father is the principal, Trinitatarianism doesn't deny that
            >“I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”—John 20:17.
            Because he wasn't glorified yet. Why did you only quote half the verse Jesus points it out:
            Jesus said,“Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothersand tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Fatherand your Father, to my God and your God.’”
            >“To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.
            Again, you only quoted half the verse:
            yet for us there is but one God,the Father,from whom all things cameand for whom we live; and there is but one Lord,Jesus Christ, through whom all things cameand through whom we live.
            >“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”—1 Peter 1:3.
            Yeah you can praise each person of the Trinity individually or as a unit. Peter calls Jesus God in his second letter:
            Simon Peter, a servantand apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousnessof our God and Savior Jesus Christhave received a faith as precious as ours:

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            >Yeah because the Father is the principal, Trinitatarianism doesn't deny that

            Right so since Jesus submits to the Father, then only the Father is God

            >Because he wasn't glorified yet. Why did you only quote half the verse Jesus points it out:
            >Jesus said,“Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothersand tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Fatherand your Father, to my God and your God.’”

            After he was glorified, Jesus still constantly referred to Jehovah as "my God" (Revelation 3:12)

            >Again, you only quoted half the verse: yet for us there is but one God,the Father,from whom all things cameand for whom we live; and there is but one Lord,Jesus Christ, through whom all things cameand through whom we live.

            Jesus is indeed Lord over us, because he is the Chief of every Christians. Yet there is one God, and that is the Father.

            >Yeah you can praise each person of the Trinity individually or as a unit. Peter calls Jesus God in his second letter: Simon Peter, a servantand apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousnessof our God and Savior Jesus Christhave received a faith as precious as ours

            Inaccurate translation. A better one makes a distinction between Christ and God:

            "Simon Peter, a slave and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our God and the Savior Jesus Christ:"

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >After he was glorified, Jesus still constantly referred to Jehovah as "my God" (Revelation 3:12)
            This is true. We also have Jesus saying he did not even come on his own initiative but only because it was the will of the Father. So before his fleshly existence on Earth he was subordinate, and after, still subordinate. Because he has a God, the same one we have.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            Exactly

            >“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
            Matthew 11:27

            >“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
            Luke 10:22

            >The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.
            John 3:35

            Amen, amen

            You're stupider than a protestant. Fricking hell.

            I pray that the Lord opens your eyes like he did for Saul on his way to Damascus

            The Bible was used as a liturgical text in the context of the early church. Thus extra-biblical witness is legitimate.

            >extra-biblical witness is legitimate.

            Chapter and verse ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Chapter and verse ?
            Every scripture inspired of Godisalso profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, forinstruction which is in righteousness
            2 Timothy 3:16

            Jesus did not write the Athanasian creed. The question is where did Jesus say he is God in his own words

            Men inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote it.

            He never did. Paul even says the contrary in Philippians 2:6

            English Standard Version
            who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

            Berean Standard Bible
            Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

            Berean Literal Bible
            Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

            Jesus never tried to be equal to Jehovah, to usurp his place as God, unlike Satan.

            >For in Christ all the fullnessof the Deity lives in bodily form
            Colossians 2:9

            He didn't have to usurp anything because he's literally God.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            >Every scripture inspired of Godisalso profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, forinstruction which is in righteousness

            Right, so every canonical Scripture is God's word. It says nothing about extra biblical traditions

            >Men inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote it

            lol

            >Colossians 2:9

            Actually, theotes denotes his divine quality. That word was used by ancient Greek writers to describe a quality or condition that could be obtained or lost as a result of one’s behavior. Obviously, then, such a term was applied to created beings and not exclusively to the almighty and eternal God, Jehovah.

            So the·oʹtes refers to a divine quality rather than to God himself.

            >He didn't have to usurp anything because he's literally God.

            Jesus has a God above him (1 Corinthians 11:3), to whom he owes his life (John 6:57), and to whom he submits (Luke 22:42)

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're stupider than a protestant. Fricking hell.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ask me how I know you're orthodox.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >After he was glorified, Jesus still constantly referred to Jehovah as "my God" (Revelation 3:12)
            Yet Revelation 1 establishes that he is parallel to the Lord God Almighty:
            >“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
            Revelation 1:8

            >I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands,and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man,dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest.The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire.His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

            >When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said:“Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
            Revelation 1:12-18

            Alpha and Omega = the first and the last letters of the Greek alphabet
            Son of man = Jesus

            >Inaccurate translation. A better one makes a distinction between Christ and God:
            Wrong. See Granville Sharp.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            “The Alpha and the Omega” refers to Jehovah God, the Almighty in all three times that this term occurs in the Bible.—Revelation 1:8; 21:6; 22:13. Jesus never used the title Alpha and Omega.

            >Wrong. See Granville Sharp.

            It has been debunked

            http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/08/sharps-rule-primer_29.html?m=1

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >its been debunked!!!
            The two places where it's most important are indisputable

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            Your words are meaningless. It has been debunked

            http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/08/sharps-rule-primer_29.html?m=1

            >Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

            This verse doesn't say he is God, it says that salvation depends on our faith in him.

            Yeah because he's the First and the Last, it's called analogy.

            The Bible applies this term both to Jehovah God and to his Son, Jesus, but with different meanings.

            • At Isaiah 44:6, Jehovah says: “I am the first and I am the last. There is no God but me.” Here Jehovah highlights that he is the everlasting true God; besides him, there is no other. (Deuteronomy 4:35, 39) In this case, then, the expression “the first and the last” has the same meaning as “the Alpha and the Omega.”

            • As for the term “the First [pro’tos, not alpha] and the Last [e’skha·tos, not omega]” (Revelation 1:17, 18 and 2:8), in these verses, the context shows that the one referred to died and later returned to life. Thus, these verses cannot refer to God because he has never died. (Habakkuk 1:12)
            However, Jesus died and was resurrected. (Acts 3:13-15) He was the first human to be resurrected to immortal spirit life in heaven, where he now lives “forever and ever.” (Revelation 1:18; Colossians 1:18) Jesus is the one who performs all resurrections thereafter. (John 6:40, 44)
            Therefore, he was the last one to be resurrected directly by Jehovah. (Acts 10:40) In this sense, Jesus can properly be called “the First and the Last.”

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            No it hasn't. Also only God has power over life and death throughout the Bible. Jesus can't claim to be able to deliver us from death and give us eternal life unless he's a blasphemer like the Pharisees judged him to be or actually God

            >Thus, these verses cannot refer to God because he has never died. (Habakkuk 1:12)
            That was before the incarnation.

            Lastly Revelation 22:12-13, 16:
            >“Look, I am coming soon!My reward is with me,and I will give to each person according to what they have done.I am the Alpha and the Omega,the First and the Last,the Beginning and the End.

            >“I, Jesus,have sent my angelto give youthis testimony for the churches.I am the Rootand the Offspring of David,and the bright Morning Star

            Jesus literally identifies himself as the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, and the one who is coming quickly. Jesus is God and Messiah.

          • 7 months ago
            JWanon

            >only God has power over life and death throughout the Bible. Jesus can't claim to be able to deliver us from death and give us eternal life

            Unless God gave him the authority to do so.
            Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

            >Lastly Revelation 22:12-13, 16:

            The speaker at Revelation 22:13 is not specifically identified, and there are various speakers in this chapter.

            Commenting on this section of Revelation, Professor William Barclay wrote:
            “Things are set down without any apparent order; . . . and it is often very difficult to be sure who is the actual speaker.” (The Revelation of John, Volume 2, Revised Edition, page 223)

            Thus, “the Alpha and the Omega” at Revelation 22:13 can be identified as the same Person given this title elsewhere in Revelation—Jehovah God.

            >Jesus literally identifies himself as the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, and the one who is coming quickly. Jesus is God and Messiah.

            Different ones speak at different times in Revelation. Once sprious additions are excluded from the text, context indicates that "Alpha and Omega" only refers to God. Also, saying the same phrase does not make two personages the same. God takes action through Jesus, like a superior through a subordinate.

            Stephen is such a great illustration because It really addresses how a Christian regard others and self-defense. Even while being murdered, Stephen's primary focus was that God does not hold the sin of his murder against his murderers. This is what he was concerned with, let alone the idea of fighting back and perhaps killing them to save his own life. He would never think of such a thing because the death of the wicked mourns God. He would rather die than mourn God. This is why a Christian will never kill anyone.

            Very good point !

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but you don't know who the speaker is!!
            It's Jesus, simple as.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah because he's the First and the Last, it's called analogy.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jesus is good, but God is food at the supreme level !
            >good teacher! Why do you call me good? only god is good.

            jesus is clearly saying that he can't be good unless he is god

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It amazes me you think he interrupted a man just to puff himself up. It's bizarre to say the least.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Constantine was biased towards you Arians and his son made your religion the official position of the Roman Empire and it lost because no one believed it.

        • 7 months ago
          JWanon

          I am not arian though

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't. Though I can give you plenty of quotes where he unambiguously says that he's not God.
    >God is greater than me
    John 14:28
    He's also accused of making himself out to be God in John 10:31-37, and he defends himself against the accusation.
    He said over and over again how he wasn't God. He made it very clear. Yet, a lot of people still don't believe him to this day.

    • 7 months ago
      JWanon

      Exactly

  9. 7 months ago
    JWanon

    Trinitarians, I ask this question but never got an answer:

    Is the Son omniscient ? Is the Holy Ghost omniscient ?

    If they both are God, that means they must be, correct ?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
      Matthew 11:27

      >“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
      Luke 10:22

      >The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.
      John 3:35

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes to both. Before his resurrection, Jesus was limited by having a human brain and human biology at the time since he was living as a (perfect) human. He could get knowledge from nowhere as shown with the woman at the well, but it does not appear to have been a passive thing.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        How can he be limited and omniscient at the same time?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          How can an electron be a wave and a point particle at the same time?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Under certain conditions electrons exhibit wave-like properties and under other conditions they exhibit particle-like properties. What is this supposed to prove?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            what kind of moronic answer is that

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I meant limited as in he wasn't actively omniscient at the time. Being omnipotent, Jesus chose to limit himself to a human perspective when he was born.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give me a single clear, unequivocal, unambiguous verse in the quran mentioning:
    1. the shahada
    2. the 5 pillars of islam
    3. the 5 daily prayers
    4. the prohibition of alcohol
    5. muhammad's genealogical tree

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is arguing on behalf of Christianity the greatest trolling technique from a psychological perspective? I've never seen anyone dance around arguments like this gay does. It makes /misc/Black person shilling look like a desperate plea.

    • 7 months ago
      JWanon

      Many people are simply resisting the Holy Spirit’s attempts to draw them to faith in Jehovah.

      Stephen, a leader in the early church, told those who were about to murder him, “You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit!” (Acts 7:51).
      The apostle Paul made a similar statement to a group of gospel rejecters in Acts 28:23-27.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stephen is such a great illustration because It really addresses how a Christian regard others and self-defense. Even while being murdered, Stephen's primary focus was that God does not hold the sin of his murder against his murderers. This is what he was concerned with, let alone the idea of fighting back and perhaps killing them to save his own life. He would never think of such a thing because the death of the wicked mourns God. He would rather die than mourn God. This is why a Christian will never kill anyone.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

  13. 7 months ago
    JWanon

    I'm going to bed. I hope for all of you to become Witnesses of the Most High God before it is goo late

    Godspeed

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Gets proven wrong
    >Start endlessly seething with "ITS TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO" reply
    Why are christians like this?

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do people actually read posts here? Isnt this a good part for this?

    Jesus’ Birth Foretold

    26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin [a]betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the [b]descendants of David; and the virgin’s name was [c]Mary. 28 And coming in, he said to her, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord [d]is with you.” 29 But she was very perplexed at this statement, and was pondering what kind of greeting this was. 30 And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; 33 and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.” 34 But Mary said to the angel, “How will this be, since I [e]am a virgin?” 35 The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; for that reason also the [f]holy Child will be called the Son of God.

    Gabriel is an authority to muslims. Its not an epistle, its from the gospel and it is even found in a dead sea scroll.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know you can be a unitarian christian just fine without joining your moronic cult right?

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    John 8:58
    ArioBlack folk have no response

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    brudder asked a very gud kwosschen

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fake sect of judaism no.2 vs fake israeliteisch sect no.1

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Adam, Idris (Enoch), Nuh (Noah), Hud, Solih, Ibrahim (Abraham), Lut (Lot), Ismael (Ishmael), Ishaaq (Isaac), Ya'quob (Jacob), Yusuf (Joseph), Ayoub, Sho'aib, Musa (Moses), Haroun (Aaron), Zul' Khifli, Dawood (David), Sulaiman (Solomon), Mil'esil, Yaasa, Yunus (Jonah), Zakariya Zachrias), Yahya (John), Easa (Jesus), Muhammed (Mohammed).

    Ever since the time of Adam, the Rejected One, the Devil has been misleading humanity out of spite. And every so often, God sends a messenger amongst people calling them back to worship God alone, with no false idols, do good deeds and avoid sin. The people mentioned above are all messengers of God, who came with the same message. They can be traced throughout history in the order that I have named them, with maybe slight differences in how their names are pronounced,
    All the previous messages were changed, fricked with, corrupted for greed and gain,
    Try living a life according to your own self made rules and see what happens. Morality ceases to exist, and degenerate chaos reigns supreme and unstoppable.

    Mohammed is the last of the Prophets and Messengers, And God promises to preserve the last message in a way it will be uncorruptible. The Koran is the last set of instructions left to humanity by the Creator of humanity. No other messengers will come ever again, because the Day of Resurrection and Judgement is too near now.

    Free will is a test on Humans to see if we obey God out of our own free will. We are all being tested, like Adam with the apple, to see if we are worthy of going back home to Heaven, or deserve Hell. Both are eternal in the afterlife.

    Do what you will with this info.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Free will is a test on Humans to see if we obey God out of our own free will.
      It sounds like your god is inferior to the God of Christ, who purposefully imbues select people with the will and desire to follow Him, and who positively writes both the end and the beginning of creation, having full authorial intent all the while.
      You can take your heathen practice back to Arabia.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Allah creates the people and their deeds, and he decreed the elect and the misguided, may Allah guide you

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why the sudden switch now?

          The God of Moses, The God of Christ and the God of Muhammed.. its the same God, the same source.

          Mohammad has his own god, who lives in Hellfire always.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The God of Moses, The God of Christ and the God of Muhammed.. its the same God, the same source.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry, but Mohammad was deceived by a fallen angel.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >obey god, be righteous, give to charity
        >HURR DURR ITS DA DEVIL
        why are people like this

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but it is obeying God in the wrong way and thus leading people astray. You aren't going to win converts by telling people to do heinous shit.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Free will is a test on Humans to see if we obey God out of our own free will
      Don't Muslims believe in predestination?

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