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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not fair, no women allowed.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shakespeare, Dante, and Borges. If you know, you know.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >paradife loft
    those arent real words

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's just old caracter, like in old french. You must read as Paradise lost

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >loft isn't a real word

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        wtf is paradiſe loſt, those aren't real words

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obvious cherrypicking but honestly, what do Protestants have besides Paradise Lost?
    From my understanding Prot literature is more focused on their translation of the Bible (KJV, Lutherbibel) than anything else.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The novel as a form of art is essentially Protestant, because it is fundamentalist and individualistic.

      Catholicism is often expressed best in poetry, not in prose. There are even Catholic saints who were poets.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >essentially Protestant, because it is fundamentalist and individualistic
        I’ve heard something similar to this before. Elaborate?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well, what's the novel fundamentally about, at the end of the day? What do all the great novels really have in common?

          It's about individuals of a fairly ordinary disposition relating their day-to-day affairs in a way that is relatable, "normal," and not fantastical. The novel is an exploration of the inner life and outward affairs of plain people.

          This is all Protestant as frick. First, the emphasis on "normality" has its roots in Protestants denying the continuation of the Age of Miracles, saying that miraculous happenings had come to an end; they had to make that argument to undermine the credibility of the Catholic Church. And in denying the miraculous they also have to deny the "romantic" aspects of literature from the Middle Ages: the dragons, the giants, the witches, and so on. It all has to be replaced with the affairs of ordinary people in a demysticized world, which of course is what the novel depicts.

          More philosophically, the emphasis on the average person is very Protestant because it flows from the inherent individualism in thinking Protestantally. Luther's "priesthood of all believers" and "Scripture Alone" denies the need for a clerical aristocracy, emphasizing that anyone, no matter how lowly, may attain perfect knowledge of God, and perfect salvation, merely from having faith and reading the Bible.

          Moreover, the novel's gradual venturing into the psychological, the desire to portray the THOUGHTS of a character, their mindstate, as realistically as possible, has a Protestant tinge as well. It comes from the lack of mysticism in the Protestant notions of faith, and the desire for hard certainty. Do I REALLY have faith in God? Do I really? Am I CERTAIN of God, Jesus, and Heaven? Do I KNOW I am saved? Without the outward structure of the Church to enmesh oneself into, a kind of insecurity develops, and this is directly related to the kind of insecurity about character portrayals that was in the novel from the beginning, but really begins to ramp up in the 19th Century.

          It all flows from Luther and his theses. You can also make the argument that the novel wouldn't be what it is without mass literacy--without average people, the novel's subjects, being able to read in the first place. And mass literacy was directly encouraged by Protestantism because of its emphasis on Sola Scriptura. You can't have "Scripture alone" if nobody can READ Scripture, after all.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't read past the second paragraph but do you honestly believe the rot you've just wasted twenty minutes typing out?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but it takes you twenty minutes to type something like that? You might be a fricking retad.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >retad
            Stop posting

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's just from Boston

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            God, Protestantism sounds so boring. Like sucking out the SOVL out of Christianity. A dull German religion.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like austere Anglo-Puritan aesthetics tbqh.
            But maybe I'm just depressed.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but where the fireworks!?!!
            American. And grim.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            But what about Don Quixote?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            And Gargantua and Pantagruel

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think Spengler argued something similar. That the novel is a deeply introspective art form that emerged in Faustian culture. Like polyphonic music that the Church originally didn’t like because you couldn’t hear individual melodies

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think Spengler argued something similar. That the novel is a deeply introspective art form that emerged in Faustian culture. Like polyphonic music that the Church originally didn’t like because you couldn’t hear individual melodies

            This is idiotic.
            Greeks and Romans wrote novels before Christianity every existed. The Chinese and Japanese wrote novels before they'd ever heard of Christianity.
            The idea that novels are a product of Protestantism is deeply ignorant and arrogant.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you moronic? He does not claim that Protestants or even Christians invented the novel.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think Spengler argued something similar. That the novel is a deeply introspective art form that emerged in Faustian culture. Like polyphonic music that the Church originally didn’t like because you couldn’t hear individual melodies

            God, Protestantism sounds so boring. Like sucking out the SOVL out of Christianity. A dull German religion.

            I like austere Anglo-Puritan aesthetics tbqh.
            But maybe I'm just depressed.

            Cope
            Anglo and german protestants literally invented romanticism and the fantasy genre
            Walter Scott, George Macdonald, William morris, Friedrich de la Motte Fouqué, Eta Hoffman, all were protestants

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >George Macdonald
            His books are amazing. Phantastes and Lilith are some of my absolute favorites. Princess and the Goblin too.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            your saying banality is somehow novel? I mean I suppose it could be, if your life was a lifelong acid trip.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't the key word in 'Novel' novelty? If a thing is not new and interesting, if it is about plain and ordinary people doing ordinary things, how can it be said to be novel?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't the key word in 'Novel' novelty? If a thing is not new and interesting, if it is about plain and ordinary people doing ordinary things, how can it be said to be novel?

            but man, thats weird that you had me going, if I weren't actually listening to what you were saying I would just nod my head and agree with you.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I get the feeling you'd make a good used car salesman.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            My dad used to work at a car dealership and one of his coworkers was a pastor who had retired from the clergy. The man would say that he "had fallen from the pulpit to the used car lot."

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Huh. You make an interesting argument.
            Can't say all those values are necessarily uniquely "Protestant," though. The only part that holds any water IMO is the thing about Protestantism promoting mass literacy.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Carlyle on heroes for more

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The novel as a form of art is essentially Protestant, because it is fundamentalist and individualistic.
        The novel was developed by the Italian, Spanish and Portuguese, and the modern realist / psychological novel by them too, as well as by the French and Russians.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Pilgrims Progress. It would be a more apt check choice than Paradise Lost but this board is full of edgy teenagers.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh you mean by john bunyan? the freemason? yes i do love protestantism

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this a joke? Pretty much all of English, German, Nordic and much of American literature (the stuff worth reading anyway) came from protestant authors who routinely interwove protestant ideals into their work.
      Melville, Dickens, Faulkner, both Kant & Hegel, Thomas Mann, Mark Twain, Goethe, Donne, Hamsun, and of course Kierkegaard - all prove protestantism the best base for literature

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mark Twain was skeptical as frick of religion and it came out almost constantly in his books. The only time he overtly portrayed religion sympathetically was ironically Joan of Arc.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Mark Twain was skeptical as frick of religion
          Like a true protestant

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          being skeptical af of organized religion is like pone of the three most protestant traits, lol.
          Thats why most churches in the USA remained governed by presbytery rather than organized conglomerates

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah he was a complete non-believer. He hated the Catholic Church but adored Joan of Arc and so didn't lampoon it for her sake.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Protestant ideals
        That’s just the problem though. Protestant ideals aren’t even truly religious in basis, at least you can’t discern any religiosity from them in a way you can from Catholic, Muslim, or even Hindu ideals which make explicit spiritual reference. With protestants it’s just an ethic that while discernibly protestant, yes, is also removed from any collective tradition that would really make it religious.
        Individualized religion is at most what you’d call “spiritualism” and it’s no wonder that most people who identify that way are from anglo-prot nations and not nations with Catholic heritage

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is just Catholic fiction, there are so many spritiually edifying Protestant books like Pilgrims Progress

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Very ignorant take. Protestantism is much more individualistic as basis for Christian thought. It is spiritually impossible for there ever to have been a Catholic or Islamic Emerson, for example.
          The protestant adaptation of the individual directly related to God through no interlocutor is maybe the most important division in Christian literary thought.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        mogged by Chesterton and Tolkien

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know Hegel was a Protestant, but Protestants can’t claim him. His philosophy is either Orthodox or Catholic, but certainly not Protestant. I mean Kierkegaard wrote an entire 600 page postscript seething about him.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A Protestant disagreed with another Protestant therefore the other Protestant isn't a Protestant

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not exclusively what I was getting at but yeah sure. Doesn’t take much brain power to realise that Kierkegaard is more Protestant in his philosophy than Hegel.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Protestants just do whatever they want
            >No they have to think specific things so I can claim this guy for my team duh
            Why are Catholics like this? Grow up

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t get what you’re trying to say; certain sects of Christianity approach religion differently believe it or not, it just so happens that Hegelianism isn’t Protestant.

            I’m not going to explain Hegel to you, just read him he isn’t really that hard as long as you know your Kant well but I’m sure you’ll understand where I’m coming from.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kierkegaard was objectively better and said things using fewer words to make his point

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hegel was a Lutheran of the Augsburg confession and stated so repeatedly .

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're talking with a "company man" who needs to score points for his "team", so don't bother.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure only Dickens, Donne, and Kierkegaard are Christians on your list. Twin hated religion, Hegel believed he'd surpassed it, Melville was a god-haunted agnostic, and Faulkner was a complete athiest.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Faust

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Goethe had became kind of a non denominal Christian mystic by the time he wrote Faust. I dont know if you coudl say its a work of Protestantism the way Milton is

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mark Twain was skeptical as frick of religion and it came out almost constantly in his books. The only time he overtly portrayed religion sympathetically was ironically Joan of Arc.

          Freemason ass homies

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most 17th to 19th century lit from Britain, northern Germany, Scandanavia, and America was written by Protestants. That's a lot of clsssic lit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doesnt read catholic philosopher chick
      not a real catholic.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Screwtape letters are prot kino

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who, pray tell, is the Catholic Kierkegaard?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      German-speaking protestants are actually great writers
      just stay away from Anglo-saxon calvinoids... (they hate literature for some reason)

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't they holding a solid two or three centuries by the balls?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Goethe Carlyle Kierkegaard Hegel. Pretty great list but then, Dante? Dosto and Tolstoy?

      Real laugh is atheist and israelites getting btfo

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >don’t cherry-pick
      >proceeds to cherry-pick

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not much, actually.
      Protestantism's REAL artistic strength over Catholicism is in music, not literature.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but overall music is really an agnostic's game

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Inferno

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kek protgays made their own version after getting mocked. It’s The Divine Comedy. Superior to anything in the picture.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...why is there fake greek on the left. what is the point being made here

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Catholics have to post this cope because they're insecure about the KJV being the greatest work of literature in the English language. The Douay-Rheims is an embarrassing mockery of the word of God

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        WRONG, picrel is the greatest work of literature in the English language.
        Foreigners can only hope for sublimity such as this adding to their language.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      ftfy

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >do re mi so fa me

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the absolute frick is that """Greek""" lol. It's a pseudo-transcription of the English by someone who doesn't even know the Greek aphabet. Whoever made this thought psy is a Y, sigma is a o, etc.

      This image just supports the stereotype that Catholics know nothing about the Bible. Also KJV is much better than Douau-Rheims, the translators preface even insults th D-R for it's idiotic clunkiness like "supersubstantial bread"

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Also KJV is much better than Douau-Rheims, the translators preface even insults th D-R for it's idiotic clunkiness like "supersubstantial bread"

        KJV Preface:

        "Lastly, we have on the one side avoided the scrupulosity of the Puritans, who leave the old Ecclesiastical words, and betake them to other, as when they put washing for baptism, and congregation instead of Church: as also on the other side we have shunned the obscurity of the Papists, in their azymes, tunike, rational, holocausts, prepuce, pasche, and a number of such like, whereof their late translation is full, and that of purpose to darken the sense, that since they must needs translate the Bible, yet by the language thereof it may be kept from being understood. But we desire that the Scripture may speak like itself, as in the language of Canaan, that it may be understood even of the very vulgar."

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        supersubstantial is a much better translation than daily

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paradise Lost is full of Milton coping about the role of clergy.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm Catholic and my response is that "Orthodox Philosopher Chick" does not exist because Orthodox countries are too poor and illiterate to justify its existence.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Camels cant into sin however as opposed to those brutish dogs who are more tempted to be evil because of "socio economic factors".

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        All things are possible with the Lord, and if He can make your mother fit through a doorframe a camel going through the eye of a needle should be no problem.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The rich are often sociopathic but the poor are often drunk; chose the middle path

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had begun to study to be a Catholic priest.
    But as I read those documents and began to understand the true nature of what a "flock" was, I knew I must turn my back upon that world.

    Now I live as a renegade atheist. I cannot merely protest. I must REVOLT. True benevolence and benevolent truth and the love of life have nothing to do with "Christianity" in any form.

    We must keep walking.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catholic is Lord of the Rings :^)

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically Catholic's literature is the Holy Bible because they wrote and maintained it. Also, I would say Dante is quite good but Marcel Proust is technically Catholic albeit not heavily practicing.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >because they wrote
      The inspired authors of the text wrote it. It was not written in a collective activity by some hierarchical group.
      >and maintained it.
      Barely. If anyone maintained it it was primarily the Orthodox since the knowledge of Greek and Hebrew were mostly lost in the west for a long stretch of time. Also most Protestants do not claim some total discontinuity with the medieval and ancient church, and would claim this same thing for themselves.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    a catholic just won the noble prize 🙂

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >orthodoxy = backwards slavs
    >protestantism = backwards inbred rednecks
    >catholicism = normal people, including attractive girls

    t. Atheist

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Slavs are not the only Orthodox people. Greeks, Romanians, Lebanese...

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >calls people inbred hicks
      >is a basement dwelling neckbeard Redditor
      Pottery

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do Orthos have corny religious books for moms in Greece/Russia/whatever like protestants and Catholics do in America

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Just Lives of Saints.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, most books are written by monks/priests/saints.
      In recent times I see Orthodoxy has spread a little to the West and this has created the most odd events and situations I have ever heard and seen.
      Priests and monks from the West writing some sort of books reminiscent of Mere Christianity but taking passages and inspiration from The Philokalia.
      I am not saying that these things are bad.
      They show the true divide between what would be the West and the near East.
      When these people share the Faith of the East
      other differences become even more apparent.
      It makes one see that the world is deeply diverse.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bread-pill me on Catholic literature bros, I am looking for some reading

    >Dante's inferno
    Too much effort because it contains a lot of historical references

    >Lord of the Rings
    Thinking about reading these books

    >...?
    WHat else?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >WHat else?
      Catholic Philosopher Chick 2

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Too much effort because it contains a lot of historical references
      You do know Wikipedia exists right? I just went through an old verse translation on Gutenberg and looked up every reference. Read some essays on the work too. Got a lot out of it. You don't need a PhD to get it lol.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Betrothed.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kristin Lavransdatter, brideshead revisited, wise blood for female ones.
      Gerard Manley Hopkins for poetry.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dante's inferno
      >Too much effort
      Yup, some children's fiction like LOTR will be perfect for you.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What you're asking for is incredibly wide. Do you want just any fiction authored by a Catholic or explicit Catholic religious literature?

      This is just a hunch but start with Jerusalem Delivered.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      here

      check 'em

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cath-Femanon essential reading

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Missing the LDS Church that looks the same in Germany as it does in Uganda.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Based
      >Cool looking ice cream thingys
      Why are internet Catholics immature pseudo-Christians? Also the average Catholic parish and the average Protestant church do not look like that.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the average catholic parish does not look like that
        true
        >the average protestant....
        it does in the US, unless its one of the megachurches that bought out the surrounding area

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it does in the US
          No it doesn't. The average Protestant church looks like a simple church building with a steeple, pews, etc. Do you not see them as you drive around? They're everywhere.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't yea. Not to mention their congregation size is negligible.
            But in a way sure, the average protestant buildings in the US do not look like that.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't yea.
            Then you're blind or moronic, probably both if you're posting idiotic memes about Muh Basebro Tradcath crap.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What? I didn't post that, I just talked about the average church for both flavours lmao. Act normal please. No need to take every reply as an attack sheesh.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >flavours
            Non-American telling me what the average church looks like in America, lol.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, definitely abnormal. I do live here if it matters that much to you.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're mostly teens with autism and their humour reflects that. There are some online Orthodox like that but they are very few and still catechumens more often than not. They tend to drop it once they're in the Church. I haven't seen a Protestant equivalent to this phenomenon.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's a Protestant equivalent but it's relegated to Protestant infighting about Calvinism so you don't see it much.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ngl, I've seen protestants do the same on other forums/sites. As rebuttals or starting their own hate posts.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ngl, I've seen protestants do the same on other forums/sites. As rebuttals or starting their own hate posts.

          Actually, didn't this whole thread with the protestant equivalent?

          https://i.imgur.com/fgxrNxh.jpg

          Catholicsisters... our response?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good point. Was probably a prot that got clowned on by a cath. As an ortho, I must say that most of us don't even care about literary fiction.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yea I know a few orts and while they can be massibely online they are less about literature for some reason. All about other types of art though.
            Anyway, quite ironic seeing how this thread started off yea lol.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >All about other types of art though
            Growing up surrounded by icons can help instill an appreciation for visual arts. Likewise growing up reading Biblical passages can help instill an appreciation for literary arts. Or that's my theory at least.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Orthodox ignore literature and philosophy because it's thought of as trivial if not outright demonic, but they/we still read. Just lives of saints, the Scriptures, and if one is so inclined and under spiritual direction, theology. We also don't care for secular visual art; a lot of Orthodox people call all secular art pornographic. Our religion is very ascetic and strict. Its a major reason why in Orthodox majority countries people are either completely irreligious or completely devoted.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ooooooo so ascetic.... icons... based.... cesaropapism.... so trad...

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Waiting on (de facto) Emperor Joe Biden to convoke the eighth ecumenical council 🙂

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not a convert and I'm not "based". You internet addicted Western youth only have familiarity with the Orthodox Church because of people like that I guess but it is a real, living religion and the diaspora in the West practice it, too.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Let’s be honest, there really isn’t much out here to do except be online.
            >go outside touch grass
            Nothing but concrete out there
            >then go for a drive
            With what car? I have to take the bus everywhere I go

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bro it's the magic ankle bone of St. Bargumius! If you sprinkle his magic bone water in your house it will keep out demonic influences!
          >Oh you don't feel well? If you leave a loaf of bread in front of your based icon of St. Sergyev the Simpleminded then he'll heal your upset stomach!
          >Yeah I pray every day to St. Denisovochivich the Holy Fool, he was famous for walking around naked and lighting things on fire because he was so holy he had to pretend he was mentally ill and commit sins! How based is that!?

          yep

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess I stand corrected

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess I stand corrected

            Nothing in that post is inaccurate other than the made-up names.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder from which sentiment and with which intention you posted that however.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            He must be a prot because caths have the same practices he lampooned

            It's actually growing quite a bit in certain parts of the world.

            Yeah, Africa, LatAm, and the Philippines. It's usually Pentecostalism, too.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He must be a prot because caths have the same practices he lampooned
            Catholics tend to be more muted about it and I don't have a webm of it. Also stuff like the holy fool seems to be specifically eastern so it wouldn't be relevant to Latin rite Catholics.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            The "I think you are silly" sentiment.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I haven't seen a Protestant equivalent to this phenomenon.
          Because no one wants to convert to Protestantism and there is nothing about it that excites anyone's interest.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's actually growing quite a bit in certain parts of the world.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've heard South America is becoming a hotbed for it but I wonder how long that will last honestly.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Only in 3rd world countries and only in essentially converting people through charismatic showmanship with little substance beneath it.

            Meanwhile in the developed world traditionally Protestant countries like Switzerland and the Netherlands now have more Catholics than Protestants in them.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We are the church of the intellectually sophisticated people you see
            Your attitude is non-Christian.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you only rely on people getting swept up in emotional hysteria that's how you end up with stuff like Mormonism or those Appalachians who let themselves get bit by snakes.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Spoken as the west collapses into atheism. We're very smart though.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. goes to "church" in a strip mall

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the average catholic parish does not look like that
          true
          >the average protestant....
          it does in the US, unless its one of the megachurches that bought out the surrounding area

          Catholics built churches right next to mosques in synagogues throughout history
          That's definitely worse lmao
          If you dipshits lived in the Middle Ages and made a pilgrimage to the holy land you'd convert to Islam cause of the epic buildings and religious fervor there

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            And protestants saw applebees and though thats where they should celebrate the lord kek

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have literally never seen one example of this. There are, however, countless examples of churches built by mosques and synagogues like it's no big deal. Catholics went to the Middle East and said
            >vggghhhh these buildings.... this culture.... bathing.... truly the saracens are superior to us!!!
            This is chronicled in your own histories, and yet you don't feel even slightly embarrassed of this (because you're a teen who's not aware)

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I have literally never seen one example of this
            Try leaving Mommy's basement, there's protestant churches all over cultureless anon

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          What exactly is the point of this insult? That Christians who are poor and can't afford fancy buildings are stupid and should be mocked?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >only modern protestants are poor and cant into fancy buildings
            >those stupid rich medieval pig farmers
            and their fancy buildings

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            The only Protestant churches that are located in places like strip malls are mission plants that haven't raised enough funds to purchase a building or land, or tiny off-the-wall weirdo groups. I'm sure there are exceptions to that but it is certainly not "normal." Any normal Protestant church is in its own building somewhere, even smaller ones.

            That being said, I still do not see your point. A fancy building is not required for anything. All that's necessary is a meeting place, which can be in someone's house, in an open field, anywhere. The first Christians worshiped in the catacombs, and those living in nations under persecution do similar things today.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Would be better if more people congregated in catacombs/people's houses ngl.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What exactly is the point of this insult? That Christians who are poor and can't afford fancy buildings are stupid and should be mocked?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What was a Christian, living in the 1st century who had to worship hidden away in a tomb somewhere, missing that you have?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            nta but, permission from the authorities to worship publicly.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not needed. They have permission from God.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            uhm lol I see how this will go

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You see how it will go because the materialistic premise behind your posts has been faulty.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >your posts
            brother....

            nta but, permission from the authorities to worship publicly.

            it just will boil down to
            >You: first christians didn't do this either
            >Me: but they did once they were allowed to
            anyway

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            They did all sorts of things once they were "allowed" to, none of which was needed for anyone to be enter heaven beforehand.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes the bare minimum, current iterations of that ethos is just marie kondoism but for religious routines.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Funny how the "bare minimum" was able to produce an army of martyrs and the entirety of Christendom that followed them.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            How does it carry over to the modern protestant faith however. Same routines, different results. Almost as if it doesn't matter and they have fallen as hard as the rest of them.
            Also not as if they live sober lives outside of the church.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Almost as if it doesn't matter and they have fallen as hard as the rest of them.
            Then why are you mocking them?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am not lol

            nta but, permission from the authorities to worship publicly.

            just saying how this part gets seen as being super important for some reason. Protestants hate decadence and Catholics think going bare bones when you're not getting killed over making it more homely is moronic.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The life of a protestant
            Grim

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        its probably mexicans

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are protestants souless?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        on the contrary, protestants are pure SOVL

        How else would you explain the Charismatic revival that's even infected the Catholic Church

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Comfy

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Protestants get awfully quiet when this is brought up

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you even read the thread?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah they have no retort

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I frickin love the religious fights on Oyish

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        What did the note say?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          The thesis of the 95 Theses can be summarized as "The Roman Catholic church is trying to cuck God. This is... le BAD "

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bro it's the magic ankle bone of St. Bargumius! If you sprinkle his magic bone water in your house it will keep out demonic influences!
    >Oh you don't feel well? If you leave a loaf of bread in front of your based icon of St. Sergyev the Simpleminded then he'll heal your upset stomach!
    >Yeah I pray every day to St. Denisovochivich the Holy Fool, he was famous for walking around naked and lighting things on fire because he was so holy he had to pretend he was mentally ill and commit sins! How based is that!?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >brother it’s the magic saline enjectiom if st Blackrock’s first son Pfizer. Like yourself and squirt and it will save you from the virus of corona

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://blacknonbelievers.org/jesus-failed-prophecy-about-his-return/

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Philosopher Chick is just the modern day Philosopher King

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catholicism
    >Dante's Inferno
    Protestant
    >Paradise Lost
    Orthodox
    >Russia lit, whatever, take your pick

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >itt religious wars but gay and snarky
    epic

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paradise Lost is so overrated

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That says paradife loft however, checkmate

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm catholic, and I love Virgin Maria
    I wrote a long poem novel expressing it in a postmodernist way my transition from atheism and nihilism to love for God like a mystic. It's in Spanish (my mother tongue), so please don't be angloauthoritarian. It also drinks from existentialism and millenial narcissism, with some references to Brothers Karamazov, and scientific speculation.

    If you are interested, it's free in deviantart:
    https://www.deviantart.com/omnicromatisia/art/ObrasCompletas-982715748

    Please love each other like Jesus did
    God bless this thread

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    What would Peter think of how gay the Pope is today?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think most early christians would be appalled at the state of every denomination all around. I wonder where they'd stop if they had a button to stop changes through time.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw non denominational

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Would early christians see themselves in you? That's all that matters.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's questionable how much of themselves they'd see in anyone.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            <3

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Non-denoms are the most likely of the "major" christian denominations to have actually fellowshipped in house churches and literally break bread and share wine for communion therein so that anon is probably not too far off from the early christians despite his likely non-adherence to the Hebraic laws

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >so that anon is probably not too far off from the early christians despite his likely non-adherence to the Hebraic laws
            Literally states in Acts that Gentiles do not have to follow the Mosaic ceremonial laws

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, that's my point

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Does your church baptize infants? If it doesn't then you're a baptist by another name (which is fine).

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have a church. Lately I've been researching the difference between the denominations so I can start going to one.
            It seems as if I align with some churches in different areas, but never fully, so I don't know how I should go about choosing one.

            I am considering Anglican, but with all the schisms and churches having slightly or completely varying stances, not one stands out. I thought Southern Baptists sounded good, too, but iirc they seemed pretty loopy or something, and with other Baptist churches, it's the same story as the Anglicans. And even though I have my doubts about the Catholic church, I haven't ruled it out, considering they have that cardinal who says the current pope is a fraud. Maybe it can be reformed, maybe it's the "best" church, who am I to say.

            I'm also finding it hard to differentiate between Lutheran, Methodist and the other Episcopal churches.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Lutheran, Methodist and the other Episcopal c
            Episcopalians are basically Anglicans who nominally separated from the Church of England due to the American Revolution but are basically Anglicans in all other aspects besides being under the CoE

            Methodists were Anglicans who followed the theology of John Wesley the primary differences between Lutherans and Methodists tend to be Closed Communion vs Open Communion and their respective doctrines regarding the sacraments and the nature of Sin and Original Sin. Methodists have a surprisingly broad cross-denominational influence. Stuff like sunday school and bible studies originated in Methodist churches.

            IIRC Methodists are also undergoing a major schism right now between the progressive-leaning-universalist Methodists in the USA and the more orthodox Methodists from the rest of the world.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Methodists are also undergoing a major schism right now
            Yea =, apparently around 2000 methodist churches in the US are leaving or have left the UMC.
            I still don't know if the ones leaving are conservative (oppose gay marriage, etc) or if they are leaving because the UMC is conservative, but I think its the former

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            The ones leaving are conservative.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Peter didn't know what a "Pope" was.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      We have survived Popes much much gayer

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paradise Lost's idea is taken from Angeleida by Erasmo di Valvasone.

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one has even mentioned Graham Greene?

    >“You cannot conceive, nor can I, of the ...appalling... strangeness of the mercy of God.”

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it not the divine comedy?

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    for poetry, Dante's Commedia, obviously.
    For prose literature maybe Don Quixote or Flanner O'Connor.

  33. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    here

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