Catholicism is the only branch of Christianity. Convince me otherwise (you can't)

Catholicism is the only branch of Christianity. Convince me otherwise (you can't)

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >homosexual Dirk: thats restorationism *posts out of context quotes from Church fathers vaguely supporting Sola Fide*

      • 9 months ago
        Dirk

        >pre reformation attestation of sola fide makes or breaks restorationism
        You're just proving you don't get the concept lol

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          ive seen you multiple times in the exact same thread. This is what you do

          1. "The protestant reformation is NOT restorationism"
          2. Digs through his out of context quotes from Church fathers that vaguely resemble what Martin Luther said

          • 9 months ago
            Dirk

            Post number? Those are two discrete discussions
            Do you know what restorationism means?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you know what restorationism means?
            yes you homosexual, youve spammed it a million times. Restorationists are people like Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons so you scoff whenever *gasp* someone uses it as an insult for your Lord and Savior Martin Luther and John Calvin.

          • 9 months ago
            Dirk

            Were Luther and Calvin restorationists?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Actually, yes they were. They did try to rebuild the Church from scratch like Jehovah Witnesses. The cope
            >oooh they were trying to reform the Church.
            >Protestantism is the natural continuation of the Church and its the Catholics who are the ones schisming
            is a fat load of shit.

            You idolize a fat pig with a scat fetish and cold blooded murderer.

          • 9 months ago
            Dirk

            You are now aware that there was a catholic reformation

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            ending indulgences was a terrible thing. Indulgences funded science and the arts.

          • 9 months ago
            Dirk

            Askers: zero
            Relevance: minimal
            Your opinion: discarded
            Concession: accepted

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Martin Luther and John Calvin were restorationists trying to construct Bible teachings from scratch with disregard to 1500 of church tradition. Predestination and Sola Fide are NOT in church history no matter how hard you cope and seethe.

          • 9 months ago
            Dirk

            >pre reformation attestation of sola fide makes or breaks restorationism
            You're just proving you don't get the concept lol

            Keep posting your Ls, please
            Predestination is literally, explicitly in the Bible btw

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            So using scripture alone can you point to where it says we need to read scripture?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Predestination is literally, explicitly in the Bible btw
            Just like how Jehovah Witnesses say blood transfusions and birthday parties are condemned in the Bible too. Yet, its a different concept when Calvin does it and deserves its own distinct terminology from restorationism?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >greek orginigal
      >just the phonetic spelling of the english in greek letters

      homosexual

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Peter founded the proper church, but later lesser men lead it astray. The Bible is sadly the only truth we have. The "unity" of a late-early church forced by a roman emperor can not be seen as canonical. Issues not openly discussed in the Bible are not of importance for the soul. Theologians may wonder how many angels can fit upon a tack but their answer being catholic or protestant is only the answer of men.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm Catholic and it's not. The Church determines who is Christian, which it bases off of the validity of baptism. Baptism must be done with water in the name of the Trinity with the intention of making the person a Christian for it to be a valid baptism. Thus Orthodox, Nestorians, Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists, Baptists, and many others are all Christians because they have a valid baptism. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, israelites, Oneness Pentecostals, Muslims, Quakers, etc. are not Christians becauze they lack a valid baptism for various reasons.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You realize the Trinity can only be represented as a cube whose shadows cast against three separate walls? This is because you consider modalism a heresy.
      Therefore, this obsession with a rigid trinity can be considered as a way to trap people in a cubical prison.
      Now look at how widespread cubes are in Judaism and Islam too.
      All of these Orthodox Abrahamic schools are fundamentally cubical.
      You want to know what Kaballahist israelites say about YHVH? They say his abode is in Saturn, and Saturn has hexagonal storms at its North Pole.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You realize the Trinity can only be represented as a cube whose shadows cast against three separate walls

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What makes the Mormon baptism not valid?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Probably because it's non trinitarian

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mormons do not believe in the Trinity.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catechism of the Catholic Church
    >838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter." Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church." With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist."

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Indeed

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >go to church
    >it's a protestant church
    OP btfo

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    what do i do if i believe in the filioque and apostolic succession, but deny papal supremacy and the solas

    • 9 months ago
      Dirk

      woah you are special 😮
      this guy is a contrarian moderate, he plays the middle against both sides. truly he must be of a superior intellect
      I only wish I could give you even more attention than I am right now

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        im not trying to be prideful, im asking a genuine question
        im not adverse to changing my mind on the issues i hold, maybe once i get around to reading turretin and vermigli ill change my mind on the solas, or change my mind on the filioque when i read photius, or change my mind on the papacy when i read ybarra. but the positions i hold now i think ive got a pretty good gasp on

        • 9 months ago
          Dirk

          Very well
          Your position is basically old catholicism. They were with Rome through the reformation but split away at Vatican 1, rejecting the elevation of the papacy. In historical theology its really more tenable than the RCC.
          The mainline that trends progressive is the union of utrecht. The conservative offshoot is the union of Scranton.

          I appreciate that you tolerate banter

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      begome orthodox

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No church father talks about the bishop of Rome having universal jurisdiction, that is a later Innovation which Pope Benedict admits to thus contradicting Vatican 1.
    Filioque was added to the creed illegally
    The fact that the Eastern Catholics can have saints like Gregory Palamas who died outside communion with Rome, said the latins listen to satan with their Filioque doctrine, was considered a heretic for hundreds of years but all that is magically reversed and he's a saint is just contradicting themselves

    Orthodoxy is truth

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      dont get into canonization squabbles when online orthodox cant even make up their mind on st. augustine
      likewise, the orthodox historical take on the usages of icon (claiming the first icons were painted by st. luke lmao) is downright hilarious
      as well, at the council of florence, mark of ephesus had to resort to quoting scotus as an argument against his dominican opponents because orthodox theology just hasnt caught up to anything that the west has produced in centuries. there will never be an orthodox aquinas, an orthodox suarez, or even an orthodox lonergan

      Very well
      Your position is basically old catholicism. They were with Rome through the reformation but split away at Vatican 1, rejecting the elevation of the papacy. In historical theology its really more tenable than the RCC.
      The mainline that trends progressive is the union of utrecht. The conservative offshoot is the union of Scranton.

      I appreciate that you tolerate banter

      >closest church is over 2 hours away
      well i guess its time to start making a pilgrimage

      Martin Luther and John Calvin were restorationists trying to construct Bible teachings from scratch with disregard to 1500 of church tradition. Predestination and Sola Fide are NOT in church history no matter how hard you cope and seethe.

      predestination is one of the most attested to positions in church history. and im not talking about false categories like double (reprobation) or single predestination, but God predestines full stop. to believe otherwise is semi-pelagian

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dont get into canonization squabbles when online orthodox cant even make up their mind on st. augustine
        what does the status of augustine have to do with anything?
        >likewise, the orthodox historical take on the usages of icon (claiming the first icons were painted by st. luke lmao) is downright hilarious
        no argument?
        >as well, at the council of florence, mark of ephesus had to resort to quoting scotus as an argument against his dominican opponents because orthodox theology just hasnt caught up to anything that the west has produced in centuries
        so?
        >there will never be an orthodox aquinas, an orthodox suarez, or even an orthodox lonergan
        i don't really care what does any of that have to do with Orthodoxy?

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just watch jay dyers take down of calvinism

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The church of Rome is anathematized under Galatians 1:8-9, since it teaches a false gospel of works righteousness which can save nobody.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      who has ever held this position or did you make it up?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're going to need to be clearer about what you're asking me.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The church of Rome is anathematized under Galatians 1:8-9, since it teaches a false gospel of works righteousness which can save nobody.
          can you cite anyone who has ever held this position or did you just make it up?
          what are you confused about

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

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