Can Protestants, & Catholics be reunited?

I'm tired of this 500 year old religious conflict.

What does it take for Catholics, and Protestants to reunite as 1 Christian group?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Short answer Christ's return

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >t. Satan

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Catholic church renouncing papal infallibility. Seriously if they did that and recognized that the bishop of Rome was just a bishop and not Christ's successor as leader of the entire Church you'd probably get the Churches of Denmark, Sweden and Norway coming right back, since Lutheranism is basically Catholicism without a pope (they also believe in a physical real presence of communion). Maybe even England.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nation-shattering cataclysm.
    The major schisms/separations came about by temporal politics. With those national identities & state churches having been purposefully dissolved in to mush in the last century, the Catholic Church would have had a simple job of having everyone rejoin, but it got just as squishy and rotten - keep in mind the homosexual/pedophilia problems PREDATE the gutting of the liturgy & monuments starting in the 60s; it's a consequence!
    To put it simply, a harsh rebuke from God to set everyone straight.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly it isn't that far-fetched of an idea for the Western Church to be reunited. I've always held that the Western Church would be reunited before Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy would be. I say this as a member and someone seeking ordination of one of the more dogmatically stricter denominations within Protestantism which is the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.

    Ultimately it would have to come down to the Roman Catholic Church rejecting the Council of Trent. That's literally all it would take.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Council of Trent is the shield of Christianity toward the man made doctrinal relativism and lies of the 50.000+ sects created since 1517. I would prefer to see a lower in number Christian Church than a corrupted and twisted by heresy one, the Church has nothing to do with Luther or Calvin.

      • 5 months ago
        OPCanon

        I wonder, if I said I fully and sincerely affirm the Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed, the Athanasian Creed, and the Definition of Chalcedon would you call me a brother in Christ?

        I think (read: know) the trouble we Protestants and Roman Catholics often have between us is a failure to define terms and what we really mean. Currently there is no meaningful dialogue between our churches. I pray earnestly for the day when Confessional Lutherans, Confessional Presbyterians, and Roman Catholics can come to the Lord's Table together.

        I've had a lot of time to consider Trent's view on justification and I just can't see it.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I would prefer to see a lower in number Christian Church
        Yeah, because that was definitely the theology of Jesus as espoused in the gospels, you complete joke.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. And we shall not.
    The Christian Church has its gates open for hereticals who wanna return to the Church.
    We won't change the Christian Dogma for some heretics, we did not do that for Gnostics, Ichonoclasts, Arians, etc., and we won't for them.
    The Church stablished at Trent its views on Heresy and there is no way for tolerance towards them among Christian communities.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We won't change the Christian Dogma for some heretics
      Catholics sure as hell did this.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, same dogma than in times of Damasus

        >I would prefer to see a lower in number Christian Church
        Yeah, because that was definitely the theology of Jesus as espoused in the gospels, you complete joke.

        We
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        Christendom can be united only once the last Calvinist heretic expires, staked through the heart, hissing and thrashing about violently as the tar-like, fetid black ooze the creature has for blood drains away from its body revealing its true form as a horned, demonic beast with razor sharp teeth, a forked tongue, blood red eyes, a pig-like snout and obsidian skin. As the horrible creature dies, a single golden coin loosens from its grip, a token of Mammon's patronage.

        Too barbaric, also Christendom still united, there is one Pope, one doctrine, one gospel and one Church that we all follow.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Internet tradcaths are a fricking embarrassment even to Catholics and you definitely represent this to at. Jesus would definitely denounce your aggression against other believers to your face.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Prove it then.
            You seething at things reddit doesn't like is irrelevant

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    When Protestants repent their pride and come back. The door is open.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Me becoming emperor of Europe and forcibly imposing my own interpretation of Christianity (a mix of Catholicism and Protestantism) on the population, in a manner analogous to Constantine, Henry VIII, or Gustav Vasa. Eventually opponents will become irrelevant and powerless. As a result Europe will become religiously united again.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Church is not a puppet to corrupt due political ideas, burger kid, the pope would move to somewhere else in the vast Catholic World and defend Christianity from there before allowing an infidel tyrant to corrupt the Christian Dogma.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am sincere in my religious views, I am indeed an American, and the pope is a senile powerless libtard.

        You mean Anglicanism? That's just Catholicism with a pope in Canterbury except he's not actually leader of the entire Church. Then again not all Anglicans are like that, some are more Calvinist (Reformed Anglicans) you're probably thinking Anglo-Catholics.

        Possibly. My most Catholic view is prayer to saints and veneration of statues, my most Protestant view is that Christ's church consists of the invisible elect, not an institution.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care about your views, you are not Christian so stay away about Christian matters.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I believe in Jesus Christ and his divinity.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder, if I said I fully and sincerely affirm the Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed, the Athanasian Creed, and the Definition of Chalcedon would you call me a brother in Christ?

            I think (read: know) the trouble we Protestants and Roman Catholics often have between us is a failure to define terms and what we really mean. Currently there is no meaningful dialogue between our churches. I pray earnestly for the day when Confessional Lutherans, Confessional Presbyterians, and Roman Catholics can come to the Lord's Table together.

            I've had a lot of time to consider Trent's view on justification and I just can't see it.

            If you had got baptized and confirmated in an official Christian Church instead of a sect (most of these sects even avoid baptism and confirmation), recogize the Pope Authority and If you had studied the Catechism as every Christian do at childhood. I would take you into account. Until then you are a pseudo-Christian, persons that very often tend to fall into heresies by not being fixed in the Christian community.

            Heresies are relativistic and anarchical, man made sects that last some years and dissapear to be replaced by other man made sects.
            The Church is permanent, solid and immutable in its doctrine. It is also authoritarian and hierarchical, respecting the opinion of the Council (composed by illustrious and pious men who have carried their own cross [chastity, poverty, obedience/chastity, obedience] following Christ, men who have received the sacrament of the apostolic holy order and therefore have authority in Christian matters).

            There is no way of reconciliation between the Christian Church and heresy, just as there is not reconciliation possible between Christian Church and: atheism, paganism, islam, etc.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sacraments are good but God is not restricted by them.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Sacraments are fundamental for Christians. They were given by Jesus to us, you can not call yourself a Christian with no sacraments.

            The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is at odds with you then. They would affirm that I am a Christian.

            Vatican Council II will be replaced soon, the traditional Christians want a new council to return to Trent and Vatican I council positions.
            The only groups stopping that are the for some reason I don't understand influential philo-heretical globalist liberal central/northwest european (poles non included) communities, aka. Synodal Way, that (again) are threatening the Chrisrian Church to secede if we do not give in to their demands.

            Most of the Catholic communities (Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Latin America, UK, Africa, US, etc) wanna return to pre-1960s vias and I am quite shure the next council, at this decade or the next, will do that.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >RETVRN TO TRADITION
            >like papal infalability

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.
            You may like or not the pope but you must respect his authority. If you don't then don't come here, we don't want those of that kind.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If the popes have always been infalible, how come they contradict each other?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, same dogma than in times of Damasus

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            We
            Won't
            Change
            Christian
            Dogma
            For
            Your
            Ridiculous
            Heretical
            Personal
            Interpretation

            [...]
            Too barbaric, also Christendom still united, there is one Pope, one doctrine, one gospel and one Church that we all follow.

            Please enlighten me on this doctrine.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is at odds with you then. They would affirm that I am a Christian.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Anglicanism? That's just Catholicism with a pope in Canterbury except he's not actually leader of the entire Church. Then again not all Anglicans are like that, some are more Calvinist (Reformed Anglicans) you're probably thinking Anglo-Catholics.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would require Protestants becoming Catholics. the alternative is that Catholics become Protestants, which is nonsensical. The Catholics will never stop viewing themselves as the only real church so they aren't going to just consider a millions of protestant splinter groups as all equally valid. The catholics don't even regard the Orthodox as equally valid.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Orthodox Church is heretical, in a lower degree than Protestantism (they still respect the sacraments, tradition, etc. but still heretical in some aspects, also they are totally at the orders of their nations instead of apolitical and controlled directly by God).
      Same for Anglicans and some oriental groups, they are hereticals but in lower degree than Lutheranism, Camvinism and all the evangelical sects.

      All of them remained frozen in time, unable to adaptat to the modern problems and questions (theological, metaphysical, political, social, etc.) that arose among the Christian community.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >unable to adaptat to the modern problems and questions (theological, metaphysical, political, social, etc.) that arose among the Christian community
        Like covering up industrial-scale sexual abuse of mostly-male kids and young teens by priests or...?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Interestingly you only have really seen that at both ends of the low church-high church spectrum. How many Presbyterians or Lutherans do you hear about molesting kids - it's almost always nondenom preachers or Catholic priests you hear doing that and the theory I've heard is there's more accountability with presbyterian polity - just the right balance of local church autonomy with higher church/denominational/synodal authority.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can't really say, although I'd assume the less-hierarchical nature of other denominations means they don't have similar issues to the catholics in which bishops/archbishops can effortlessly reassign "troublesome" priests to parishes on the other side of the country

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's it, Presbyterians and Lutherans probably don't really do that because of the synodal structure of their churches, so there actually is accountability. And for lower-church denominations there's the opposite problem, pastors being relatively independent means more autonomy so there's no one above them they're accountable to except their fellow pastors (and that doesn't seem to ensure accountability, such as in the SBC)

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christendom can be united only once the last Calvinist heretic expires, staked through the heart, hissing and thrashing about violently as the tar-like, fetid black ooze the creature has for blood drains away from its body revealing its true form as a horned, demonic beast with razor sharp teeth, a forked tongue, blood red eyes, a pig-like snout and obsidian skin. As the horrible creature dies, a single golden coin loosens from its grip, a token of Mammon's patronage.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Christendom can be united only once the last Calvinist heretic expires, staked through the heart, hissing and thrashing about violently as the tar-like, fetid black ooze the creature has for blood drains away from its body revealing its true form as a horned, demonic beast with razor sharp teeth, a forked tongue, blood red eyes, a pig-like snout and obsidian skin. As the horrible creature dies, a single golden coin loosens from its grip, a token of Mammon's patronage.
      You're not a Christian. You are the complete opposite of everything Christ espoused.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT
    >the only thing it would take is if the RCC rejected [core catholic teaching that was instituted on the basis of them having authority as the one true church]
    That's just a long winded way of saying they'd have to become Lutheran

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Protestants want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to live under God's authority, but not on this earth. Sorry, but you can't have that.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The abolition of the Papacy and the recognition of Sola Fide.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    For romanists and reformed to submit to the authority of scripture.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They cant be counted

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