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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    And not Christian?

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    But I don't want to be a smug douchebag

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Simp: the religion

    No

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm not christian, but calvinism always made sense to me.

    it makes sense for evil to be a part of Gods plan. free will is meaningless when there is pointless suffering and a creator that could stop it any second he wants.

    why would the Son sacrifice himself for mankind only for some people to reject the gift of eternal life? if we only become saved by grace alone, and that first move is by God alone, then theres nothing we can do to change it.

    "oh but grace is provided for everyone, its just some choose to believe, and others dont!"

    that just means God failed in providing sufficient grace for some of his sheep

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah you definitely don't sound like a Christian bro

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are definitely a christian or well on your way to becoming one
      as an actual non-christian calvinism doesn't "make sense", but it is the strain of christian theology that is most internally logically consistent and the only one that legitimately attempts to put forth an actual explanation about the realities of the christian faith in the world
      but it only "makes sense" if you presuppose christianity is the one true faith, because even if it is the most logical form of christianity it still rests on a foundation of pure faith

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing consistent about making Christ the author of evil.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good thing that isn't stated in Calvinism

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks you have to state things to believe them
            >he has no idea what an implication is

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are definitely a christian or well on your way to becoming one
      as an actual non-christian calvinism doesn't "make sense", but it is the strain of christian theology that is most internally logically consistent and the only one that legitimately attempts to put forth an actual explanation about the realities of the christian faith in the world
      but it only "makes sense" if you presuppose christianity is the one true faith, because even if it is the most logical form of christianity it still rests on a foundation of pure faith

      Atheists always seem to think that Calvinism is the most sensible form of Christianity. I do not believe this is a point in its favour.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm an atheist and I think Calvinists are buttholes who think the more theological suppositories they take, the more insightful their exegesis is, but they shy away from the actual biblical suppository (the one that might actually have implications for them) which is the doctrine that someone can lose his salvation.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          There is a certain class of book smart atheist, the kind that likes to frequent "dissident" forums like Oyish and others. These are the atheists who seem predisposed to fawning over Calvinism. I think it arises out of a volatile combination of low empathy, smugness, autism and contrarianism. Oyishners chase after whatever is seen as the most hardcore option, regardless of its truth value. Calvinism just so happens to be the version of Christianity they deem to be the most hardcore.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    go away semite

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any God that would condemn people to eternal damnation and torture before they are even born, and give them absolutely no recourse for appeal or opportunity to prove their worthiness, is no God worth following.

    Calvinism, and more specifically pre-destination, is anti-Christian.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      And Christianity is anti-Noahide. Return to the roots, return to Noahidism.

      • 6 months ago
        Chud Anon

        Have fun in the draft you stinkin yid

        From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don’t seem to understand. You are to return to the purest form of Abrahamic faith available to those who aren’t born to Judaism or aren’t willing to become ger tzedek. You will follow the seven laws. And by doing so, you will be treated as ger toshav when the Mashiach comes and the Olam Ha-Ba with him.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ideal christianity (still false, but at least logical):
    >complete lack of free will, total predestination
    >apokatastasis
    calvinism fails the second one. in fact it fails the first one as well due to a pronounced lack of balls.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Calvinism summarized.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Calvinist John 3:16:
    For God so hated the world, that he withheld his only Son, that whoever fails to believe in him should not live but be Damned forever.
    Don’t worry though, “world” doesn’t refer to everyone, just the people God desires to be damned.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's based

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DUDE THAT IS SO HECKIN' METAL! GOD DOESN'T SCIENCE AROUND!

        have a nice day

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm predestined not to

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    can't I'm either pre-destined to or not.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The entire free will defense about the problem of evil goes away when you learn what most christians think about grace and salvation.

    grace - oh wait it's not something you can do, its something god gives you. oh and its fair for you to be punished in eternal hell if you dont have faith

    if you lack that grace then you go to hell, but if the grace is provided to every person on the planet why do some believe and others dont? ok lets say its free will, then its something you do that is different from atheists and non christians. so its not just a gift, its something you earn.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >grace - oh wait it's not something you can do, its something god gives you. oh and its fair for you to be punished in eternal hell if you dont have faith
      Almost all Christian denominations aside from Calvinism preach that grace is offered universally. Whilst man can do nothing by himself, Christ's saving grace is substantively offered to everyone. Even the acceptance of grace is an effect of grace, not of man, but people retain the capacity to reject such grace even after converting. So, no, the free will defence doesn't just disappear.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >then its something you do that is different from atheists and non christians. so its not just a gift, its something you earn
      Not quite. The acceptance of grace is itself an effect of grace, not of man. Were Christ not to have descended, man would not have had the power or even the inclination to accept grace. Despite this fact, most denominations maintain that man possesses and retains the capacity to reject grace at any point, even following baptism. In this way, it is like a river - man cannot force a river to flow, but he can dam it. And, when he is made to enter the river, his course and motion is then directed in the first instance by the river and not by his own movements. In this way, the reception of grace is not something that man does. The doing in this instance can only come with the rejection (should it occur).

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >its something you earn
      hey look, another one who hasn't got enough introspection ability to realize that beliefs aren't voluntary.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have any scientific evidence that this calvinist god exists?

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    OK

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If God wanted me to be a Calvinist, I'd become one.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you actually explain the free will position? It seems unjust that people are destined to be damned. Doesn't that imply that God made them to suffer?

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Dont dance
    >Dont do sport
    >Dont do alcohol and drugs
    >Dont do christmas
    >Dont listen to music
    >Stop having fun!

    Literally islam with pork (maybe) and without the chance to have five 15yo wives

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wasn't predestined to become calvinist.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like Calvin's systematic theology and can see myself being a Presbyterian but concepts like the 5 solas, filioque invisible church and rejecting apostolic succession aren't dependable

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