As a teaching in what is Christianity better than Zoroastrianism?

As a teaching in what is Christianity better than Zoroastrianism? And in what way is Zoroastrianism better than Christianity?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Christianity
    the most successful religion of all time
    >Zoroastrian
    a failed religion

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      IDK man, Zoroastrianism has been going strong for 3,000 years despite facing damn near constant state oppression, and Christianity collapses the moment it's not supported BY state oppression. This is on top of the fact that you believing that most so-called Christians are not in fact Christians, and indeed that the majority of historical so-called Christians were not in fact Christians.

      https://i.imgur.com/qfvQJRI.jpg

      As a teaching in what is Christianity better than Zoroastrianism? And in what way is Zoroastrianism better than Christianity?

      I don't think it's fair to compare as we've never seen a European Zoroastrian state. Zoroastrianism is clearly superior to Islam, but we don't know what the results of "White Mazdanism" would be.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think it's fair to compare as we've never seen a European Zoroastrian state. Zoroastrianism is clearly superior to Islam, but we don't know what the results of "White Mazdanism" would be.
        This is a practical aspect. And what if we compare their theoretical teaching?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think that you can make a judgement of that while remaining neutral. You're just going to be comparing the two based on your own preconceived notions and beliefs. This isn't because objectivity and neutrality aren't possible, but because the comparison requires comparing too many axioms. At a certain point it just comes down to "which axiom do you prefer", which is just you comparing two axioms to your own axioms.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoroastrianism has been going strong for 3,000 years despite facing damn near constant state oppression, and Christianity collapses the moment it's not supported BY state oppression
        switch zoroastrianism here with Christianity and you'd be correct

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >most so-called Christians are not in fact Christians, and indeed that the majority of historical so-called Christians were not in fact Christians.
        just like any religion

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think it's fair to compare as we've never seen a European Zoroastrian state. Zoroastrianism is clearly superior to Islam, but we don't know what the results of "White Mazdanism" would be.
        LMAO another self hating brownoid

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Zoroastrianism is a dead religion whereas Christianity took over the Roman empire despite multiple waves of persecutions. What the FRICK are you talking about.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Zoroastrianism is a dead religion
          No. Also popular doesn't mean good

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          But Zoroastrianism is still alive and by your own admission Christianity died when Vatican II happened.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoroastrianism has been going strong
        >cucked by muslims in Iran
        >turned into a israelite-like ethnic cult that doesn't accept converts and is dying from low birth rates in India
        Lmao.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Zoroastrians do accept converts, proseltyizing a religion other than Islam is just illegal and punishable by death in Iran, as is leaving Islam. Parsis don't proselytize in India out of choice, but they do proselytize outside of India.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yep and details are here according to the Canon on how conversion must be do. Learning to pronounce the Holy Language or follow some purity rules is also not ease and some people give up:

            "100. To the Rumis who help the Yazdan-worshippers of good wisdom (i.e. who help those of the Mazdayasnian faith) and to others who live a similar (good) life, should be expounded the original text of the 'Ganj-i-Shapigan.' (In other words, the israelites and the Greeks who wish to believe in the Mazdayasnian religion), and such of them as have no faith in their own, and want to improve, should be thoroughly instructed in the religion." ~Denkard 4

            "When a man who is an infidel (agdĕn) converts to the Good Religion**, he brings
            with him every underage child (aburnayig) born from (his) intercourse, as it is
            revealed in the (Avestan passage) for all his underage children, not for only one of
            his underage children.
            And his wife is not dismissed from being a wife, since by (taking) proper care
            (of her) he does not stay below the minimum required by law. And he is not
            allowed to have intercourse with her, since that is a sin. And he is not allowed
            to beat her (as it is stated) "leave the infidel alone." Yes, and since it is not
            allowed according to the law to impair her. And he is obliged to give her a daily
            allowance (rôzgar) if she has none, (but) this is not to be left to the Church (kili-siya)." Indeed, her daily allowance (is) our own possession." ~the Hērbedestān

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoroastrianism is clearly superior to Islam
        Islam is the Zoroastrianisation of Christianity

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wasn't the Greek Bactrian Kingdom a European Zoroastrian state which existed for some time?

        We also have the remains of a European Zoroastrian temple, aka the Jandial Temple likely the work of Greek converts.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Greco-Bactria was Helleno-Buddhist, not Zoroastrian.

          Not that it really matters because we know so little about the daily life of the people living there that we can't judge anything.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Georgians also had the most prominent European Zoroastrians besides those Greek communities I mentioned who set up the Greek Bactrian Kingdom.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm ready for the "chuds convert from eastern orthodoxy to zoroastrianism" arc. The ride never ends.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought they would try Oriental Orthodoxy next

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm ready for the "chuds convert from eastern orthodoxy to zoroastrianism" arc. The ride never ends.

        What about Coptic Christianity?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Copts are Oriental Orthodox

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity preaches eternal damnation, that all nature is inherently divine (Meaning the God created evil too) and that animals cannot have souls.

    Zoroastrianism teaches that damnation is a state that can be experienced in the afterlife depending on seriousness but never permanent although can seem a long period of suffering and horrible to undergo before you reach heaven. Some sins too serious may not be resolvable while you are alive but that doesn't mean permanent damnation.

    For reference, many people have encountered ghosts who can be the spirits in this state and seen some reach Heaven.

    There are animals capable of being virtuous that have souls, dogs in particular (Who are entitled to receive the same protections and funerary rites as humans). Humans and dogs can also be entombed together.

    In Zoroastrianism nature is not inherently divine but a mix of good and evil's influences. Some creatures are even evil like scorpions, wasps, mosquitoes and most flies.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are a number of spiritual experiences such as seeing damned souls suffer who need help to reach paradise that people have experienced which prove Zoroastrianism correct over Christianity too.

    Some of these spirits who are too corrupted to be able to see salvation for awhile may become harmful ghosts for a time under evil until their time in damnation expires and they are reunited with good.

    Zoroastrianism has taught some evil people can become among the Daevas in bringing harm to us while Christianity claims these spirits were never human to begin with.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    In Zoroastrianism if evil people harm you or your loved ones you can and are even encouraged to fight back to stop them. To resist with as much force as necessary where Christianity would normally teach to not resist and "give him your coat" or whatever that verse says.

  6. 5 months ago
    Worker

    The main message of Christianity is the saving message of Jesus Christ.

    The Gospel of John is the only book in the entire Bible which is said to be written for the purpose of getting people saved. In John 10:31, John says that he wrote the book so that the readers might believe in Christ, and that by believing they would have eternal life.

    >But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
    John 10:31

    So, if eternal life is found in this book, what do we find this book saying? Or, maybe more importantly, what does it NOT say?

    1. The gospel of John does not say that you need to repent of your sins for salvation. In fact, John never mentions “repentance” or “repent” once. So, we can conclude that repentance from sins is not a requirement for salvation. Protestant, Catholic, Mormon, JW, and Orthodox teachers who teach repentance of sins for salvation are therefore teaching a false gospel.

    2. The gospel of John does not say that you need to be baptised to be saved. In fact, the gospel of John never mentions baptism even once. So, we can conclude that Catholics, Mormons, and Orthodox who teach that baptism is necessary for salvation are teaching a false gospel.

    3. The gospel of John does not mention good works being necessary for salvation. The only “work for salvation” that is mentioned is in John 6:29, where Jesus says: “This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” So, Catholics, JWs, Mormons, Orthodox etc. who teach that good works are necessary for salvation are teaching a false gospel.

    So, what does John say?

    • 5 months ago
      Worker

      In almost every chapter of John, we find commands to BELIEVE. Here are just a few examples:

      The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
      John 1:7

      But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
      John 1:12

      This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
      John 2:11

      That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
      John 3:15

      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
      John 3:16

      He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
      John 3:18

      He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
      John 3:36

      And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
      John 4:42

      Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
      John 5:24

      Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
      John 6:29

      And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
      John 6:40

      Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
      John 6:47

      And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
      John 6:69

      • 5 months ago
        Worker

        What is John trying to tell us? What was Jesus telling us? We are told to BELIEVE. Belief in Christ is what saves; when we believe, we receive EVERLASTING LIFE. This isn’t life until we sin, or life until we stop going to church, or life that we have to work for in any way… This is EVERLASTING LIFE, which is received by believing on Jesus Christ.

        Jesus said that WHOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM has EVERLASTING LIFE.

        He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
        John 3:36

        So, believe on Christ, and you will have everlasting life. Believe on Christ and fully trust in Him for your salvation. Don’t trust your good works, or your false religion, or your priest, or going to church… Believe on Christ, who was God in the flesh, lived a perfect life and died as a sacrifice for our sins, and rose from the dead on the third day… and you’re saved, regardless of who you are or what you’ve done. This is the message of the gospel of John, which was written so that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Zoroastrianism also teaches salvation is by the good you do
          No surprise there.

          This is the main difference between Christianity and every other religion. Christianity is the religion of Abel, who trusted in the blood of the Lamb. Other religions, like Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, JW, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism etc. are religions of Cain, and teach that you must rely on the fruit of your labour for salvation.

          This is why Cain religions hate Abel – because they can't stand that we rely on the righteousness of Christ, rather than our own works. This is why the israelites killed Christ, why Romans tortured believers, why Roman Catholics burned Protestants, why Muslims kill Christians.

          >The person who claims his religion is better is not religious at all.
          The gospel of Jesus Christ is completely different to the religions of the world. Christianity is the religion of Abel, who trusted in the blood of the Lamb. All other religions, like Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, JW, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism etc. are religions of Cain, which teach that you must rely on the fruit of your labour for salvation.

          Christ accomplished it all for us. When we place our trust in Christ alone, we are saved forever.

          >Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
          John 6:47

          >Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
          Romans 3:28

          >believeth
          Belief doesn't mean mere thinking to Paul or any other Apostle.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            Believe means believe. You're literally acting in the same Spirit as the israelites who persecuted the early church.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Believe means believe.
            Correct. Not "think".

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zoroastrianism also teaches salvation is by the good you do in this world but that nobody is doomed to damnation either.

    Some people will suffer badly for awhile before they reach heaven in the afterlife but ultimately Ahura Mazda will not abandon any soul.

    • 5 months ago
      Worker

      >Zoroastrianism also teaches salvation is by the good you do
      No surprise there.

      This is the main difference between Christianity and every other religion. Christianity is the religion of Abel, who trusted in the blood of the Lamb. Other religions, like Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, JW, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism etc. are religions of Cain, and teach that you must rely on the fruit of your labour for salvation.

      This is why Cain religions hate Abel – because they can't stand that we rely on the righteousness of Christ, rather than our own works. This is why the israelites killed Christ, why Romans tortured believers, why Roman Catholics burned Protestants, why Muslims kill Christians.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    No religion is better than another. The person who claims his religion is better is not religious at all.

    • 5 months ago
      Worker

      >The person who claims his religion is better is not religious at all.
      The gospel of Jesus Christ is completely different to the religions of the world. Christianity is the religion of Abel, who trusted in the blood of the Lamb. All other religions, like Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, JW, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism etc. are religions of Cain, which teach that you must rely on the fruit of your labour for salvation.

      Christ accomplished it all for us. When we place our trust in Christ alone, we are saved forever.

      >Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
      John 6:47

      >Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
      Romans 3:28

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        God made a world where all are fallen and then killed himself to redeem the world that he had set up so that all would fall
        Your religion is an incoherent mess. Also, what about Matthew 16:27?
        >For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
        Sounds like works are required to me.
        James 2:20
        >Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?
        James 2:14
        >What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works

        Your religion is just a mishmash of conflicting logic that you people close your eyes to because confronting it would show the absolute falsity of it.

        • 5 months ago
          Worker

          You can't make sense of it, because you aren't willing to accept that you are saved by faith in Christ alone.

          >For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
          1 Corinthians 1:18

          Isn't it ironic how atheists, Muslims, Catholics, Orthodox, JWs, Mormons, Hindus etc. all believe the same thing? They all reject the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is offered to all as a free gift, not of works.

          >8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
          >9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
          Ephesians 2:8-9

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

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